I'd like to address this issue as well. What does it matter what the company you work for is billing to the client. That is betweeen the company and client. The fact that it's a business and there's a profit to be made, doesn't mean the profit needs to be shared. You should get paid based on your experience and what the marketplace is paying someone for your similar experience. The fact the company you work for did a good job at getting the client to pay a certain amount is really none of your concern. If you ran a business you'd realize that there is a cost for that company to do busines, so they are not making what you think they are even making off of you. If you want the full amount, then go try and start your own business and bill yourself out at whatever you want. Oh by the way, while you're working, who's out there marketing and building business so you have somewhere to go when the conract is up for your new company? Brett Camet Division Manager Diamond Data Systems, Inc. http://www.diamonddata.com 5732 Salmen Street New Orleans, LA 70123 (504) 729-9100 ext. 114 fax (504) 729-9101 IT's second nature to us. "Never bad mouth your competitors, co-workers, nor superiors unless there exists a need to publicize one's lack of self-esteem and/or the desire to gain un-earned & short lived respect from others." -----Original Message----- From: Gary Turner [mailto:GaryTat_private] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:12 AM To: 'Andrew Cowan'; 'mlhat_private' Cc: 'securityjobsat_private' Subject: RE: What is a reasonable cut that a contracting company should ta ke? I find it interesting that some people find it so easy to describe human beings who work for a living in a legal endeavor, as pimps. What is the definition of a pimp anyway? Someone who coordinates the selling of useful human resource services? If the services are illegal does that make them a pimp? Or does this term apply to all of us? When we market ourselves for work for hire, do we then become auto-pimps? Do we become pimps when when we exceed a profit margin of 20% over costs? Can't it be as simple as shopping for the best rate and making an intelligent decision, rather than slandering people? And are we all naive enough to think that top execs at ALL companies don't play golf? It's the way the world works folks! Different jobs involve different types of activities that are required for success. No one has a gun to anyone's head forcing them to work for a particular company or with a particular person. Rather than be derogatory, if someone thinks ill of a person, company or industry, perhaps they should exercise their intelligence and find work in an industry where they don't have to deal with "pimps" and people who play golf. Gary Turner -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Cowan [mailto:acowanat_private] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:56 AM To: mlhat_private; Brian Cahill Cc: securityjobsat_private Subject: Re: What is a reasonable cut that a contracting company should take? Howdy folks, Around here (Ottawa, Canada) the average is 20%. If you found the job yourself you might be able to get the cut down to 10%. If you can shop around, do it. Just remeber that the per centage isn't everything. Look at how fast the pimp is going to pay you and whether you are stuck with them (non-compete). A --End of Blather-- This is the Panic Office - Section 917 may have been hit. On Dec 17, mlhat_private wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:54:53PM -0500, Brian Cahill wrote: > > > > I am submitting myself on a security project via a contracting company. > > > > They will take a piece of the hourly rate. With that, what is a reasonable > > cut that I should expect the contracting company to take? > > Reasonable or typical? Because they're not the same thing :-) > > Typically, I think the answer is somewhere between 15% and 80% > > 15% if you got the job yourself and they're just doing the paperwork. > > Up to 80% if they're some <hugecompany> who are able to keep > the total charge secret from you and able to spend it entertaining > the senior execs at the golf course. > > Matt >
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