The job market is changing because of the apparent lack of work available and nothing more. I would tend to agree that the term or use of the word "pimp" puts a negative misconception onto that in which we operate similarly to that of the world's oldest profession. Personally, I would like to think of myself as an "information capitalistic mercenary" or "information capitalistic opportunist". In either case, the message may be construed more positively... ;) If anyone would like to use those words and patent or trademark them, remember me when you become a millionaire. ;) My motto should be: "Have computer, will consult." Remember: the word "consultant" was taken from the prime word "consult" which means to both "con" and "insult" at the same time. ;) DISCLAIMER: Any opinions were all their fault, held at gunpoint, and told to enter this ridiculous text. :))) -r ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Turner" <GaryTat_private> To: "'Andrew Cowan'" <acowanat_private>; <mlhat_private> Cc: <securityjobsat_private> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: What is a reasonable cut that a contracting company should take? > I find it interesting that some people find it so easy to describe human > beings who work for a living in a legal endeavor, as pimps. What is the > definition of a pimp anyway? Someone who coordinates the selling of useful > human resource services? If the services are illegal does that make them a > pimp? Or does this term apply to all of us? When we market ourselves for > work for hire, do we then become auto-pimps? Do we become pimps when when we > exceed a profit margin of 20% over costs? Can't it be as simple as shopping > for the best rate and making an intelligent decision, rather than slandering > people? And are we all naive enough to think that top execs at ALL companies > don't play golf? It's the way the world works folks! Different jobs > involve different types of activities that are required for success. No one > has a gun to anyone's head forcing them to work for a particular company or > with a particular person. Rather than be derogatory, if someone thinks ill > of a person, company or industry, perhaps they should exercise their > intelligence and find work in an industry where they don't have to deal with > "pimps" and people who play golf. > > Gary Turner > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Cowan [mailto:acowanat_private] > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 5:56 AM > To: mlhat_private; Brian Cahill > Cc: securityjobsat_private > Subject: Re: What is a reasonable cut that a contracting company should > take? > > > Howdy folks, > > Around here (Ottawa, Canada) the average is 20%. If you found the job > yourself you might > be able to get the cut down to 10%. If you can shop around, do it. Just > remeber that the > per centage isn't everything. Look at how fast the pimp is going to pay you > and whether > you are stuck with them (non-compete). > > A > --End of Blather-- > This is the Panic Office - Section 917 may have been hit. > > On Dec 17, mlhat_private wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 03:54:53PM -0500, Brian Cahill wrote: > > > > > > I am submitting myself on a security project via a contracting company. > > > > > > They will take a piece of the hourly rate. With that, what is a > reasonable > > > cut that I should expect the contracting company to take? > > > > Reasonable or typical? Because they're not the same thing :-) > > > > Typically, I think the answer is somewhere between 15% and 80% > > > > 15% if you got the job yourself and they're just doing the paperwork. > > > > Up to 80% if they're some <hugecompany> who are able to keep > > the total charge secret from you and able to spend it entertaining > > the senior execs at the golf course. > > > > Matt > > >
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