Bugs in Mac Afee AV? [Re: Antivirus scanner DoS with zip archives]

From: Michel Arboi (arboiat_private)
Date: Tue Jun 19 2001 - 14:52:35 PDT

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    Still playing with those crazy Zip archives, I tried to DoS "NetShield"
    on out NT file server.
    It failed! NetShield does not "recurse" into Zip archives, it only
    looks at the first level.
    This means that it is immune to this stupid DoS attack, but malicious
    code may be burried under two levels of archiving.
    I am not sure this should be called a "bug", as this tool only protects
    (?) file transfers from/to a server. The workstation should run another
    software protection.
    
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    I then decided to look at Hotmail, as I know they use Mac Afee to check
    the attachments before downloading.
    I sent three e-mails with the Eicar.com test file (no! I did not
    attempt to DoS hotmail :)
    I attached eicar.com to the 1st one, eicar.zip (which just contained
    eicar.com) to the 2nd, and eicar2.zip (which contained eicar.zip) to
    the 3rd.
    Mac Afee detected the test "virus" but the behaviour was strange:
    Hotmail said that the 1st and 2nd messages could not be cleaned and
    blocked the download, but it accepted to "clean" the 3rd one.
    When eicar2.zip arrived on my hard drived, the archives were intact and
    the test virus was still here.
    
    If some user trusts the "cleaning process" by Hotmail, sending him a
    virus is very easy. Once again, the workstation should be protected.
    
    IIRC, Yahoo Mail used to provided some AV scanning (Norton?) but it
    seems they stopped now (or they refuse to recognize the EICAR test
    string)
    
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    I should probably contact Mac Afee, but I bet they are not the only
    antivirus editor that have big problems with those "recursive"
    archives. 
    Maybe that's only a configuration problem too...
    The choice may be: either weak protection or easy denial of service
    with 42.zip :-\
    After all, scanning archives when you transmit them looks like a bad
    idea.
    Note that using some kind of unknown archive (most Windows AV cannot
    open bzip2), or enciphering the archive will also defeat the detection.
    
    
    
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