On Thursday 06 September 2001 08:35 pm, Stanley G. Bubrouski wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2001, sween wrote: > > You owe script kiddies... BIG TIME. > > The computer and software industries owe script kiddies NOTHING. Script > kiddies bring down sites, wreak havoc on networks, use compromised as > platforms for attack and all without knowing how what they are using works > or what harm they are doing. <more.offtopic.crap> Stan, After doing assessments/pen-tests for the last couple years, I have found that the only thing that seems to increase the public awareness of security issues is being owned by a script kid. A large number of people asking for security services have either had a breakin or are scared to death that they will be the next target on some kid's list. Lets say we take the kids out of the picture, that leaves the full range of white-hats and the upper crust of the black-hats. The number of breakins would drop dramatically, the black-hats would only concern themselves with big/lucrative targets, and the majority of the "good guys" would be out of work. I for one would rather have some clueless script kid deface my site then someone intent on stealing my identity/funds/etc. Yes, they cause damage, annoy us all, and are generally the cockroaches of the internet, but ironically they are protecting us from those with even worse intentions. </more.offtopic.crap> -- H D Moore http://www.digitaldefense.net - work http://www.digitaloffense.net - play
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