Yeah, we all owe those script kiddies really big time. If it wasn for the fucking script kiddies, we might all have time to really stay on top of our machines, so that the real crackers do not just slip past all of the patches and code updates we endlessly implement to keep out the script kiddies. If it was not for the script kiddies, we might have time to implement better mail filtering to keep polymorphic mail worms from wasting our bandwidth and disk space. If it was not for the script kiddies, my mom would be able to run a cable modem with having to worry about some asswipe using nmap to scan the @home networks and blast her Windows machine just for the hell of it. There would always be a huge need for good security without script kiddies. If you REALLY knew security you would realize that external attacks by script kiddies are hardly a threat compared to internal industrial espionage, espionage by foreign government into nation militarty networks, a moronic middle manager waxing sentimentally over his sysadmin days and accidentally wasting an important server, or even a fire wiping out a datacenter. Script kiddies are nothing but a nuisance, wasting time and money that many companies cannot afford, distracting admins from the real problems. -james --- sween <sweenat_private> wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, fintler wrote: > > Now why would you possible want something like > that...if you were an > > sooooo you can drive an industry and root somebody's > solaris machine and > prove to SOMEONE's company that this computer > security bullshit isn't just > a fad and that are not wasting 60K a year for a > "security" expert to hover > over security focus mailing lists and apply patches > to expensive operating > systems that were shipped broken in the first place. > > this industry needs an old fashioned ass whoopin. > > You owe script kiddies... BIG TIME. > > GET OFF MY LIST. > > > > > --- Labkonto <ppht-15at_private> wrote: > > > Anyone here that developed an exploit > > > for the Telnetd buffer overflow on solaris, > > > or know where to get one? > > > > > > > > > // pp > > > > > > > admin, you'd just patch your > > box and forget it. I can only assume you're trying > to get into someone elses box, what makes you > > think I'm going to give you a script so you can > get someone fired from their job because you felt > > like being an 3r3ct skr1pt k1ddi3. > > > > -fintler <fintlerat_private> > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant > messaging with Yahoo! Messenger > > http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > -- > > sween > -script kiddie- > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
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