RE: Telnetd exploit for solaris

From: Oliver Petruzel (opetruzelat_private)
Date: Fri Sep 07 2001 - 11:15:12 PDT

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    > Or maybe he just has an obsession with knowing how things 
    > work.  I know I do... to a fault.
    > 
    > -- 
    > 
    > Marc Soda
    
    HEAR HEAR!  Well said.  And it is THAT menatality which sums up full
    disclosure in its entirety. Well said...
    
    I hate to beat a dead horse, but it seems some folks fail to see the
    horse at all.  This is the Vuln-Dev mailing list - perhaps the most
    dangerous of all the full disclosures because we sit in here and discuss
    FUTURE holes and problems.  (so the worst offense the original poster
    could have made was posting to the wrong list...) But it being dangerous
    is irrelevant.  We cannot eliminate crime by banning the guns - this has
    been proven.  So we should all come to this list with the open-mind and
    curiosity which makes us admins or hackers to begin with...
    
    Censoring or controlling the flow of code has only one or two merits,
    and it's not in the whitehats favor I speak of.  When someone asks for a
    script or a piece of elegant code which exploits a publically announced
    hole, give it to them.  EVERYTIME!  Let their curiosity and experience
    with it be their teacher in creating new and ultimately BETTER security
    professionals. Think about it. The more Experts we create, the more
    script-kiddies we catch!!
    
    -oliver p.
    



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