Hi, This really has nothing to do with the Java language as such, but it has more to do with the JAVA VM and the compilation process. In case you need more obfuscation you can always resort to using a native compiler. If you are really interested in decompilation, take a look at the research of Cifuentes "Reverse Compilation Techniques". In the context of a PhD thesis the author has shown how to decompile C programs. Alan Mycroft has shown how to apply Type based techniques to achieve the same results. The paper is called "Type Based Decompilation". Regards, -- Dirk Hack Hawk <hugh@hackhaw To: <steven.sporenat_private>, vuln-devat_private k.net> cc: "James Washer" <washerat_private> Subject: Re: JAVA more insecure than true compiled code? 06/04/2002 20:49 At 05:17 AM 04/05/2002, steven.sporenat_private wrote: >Hi, > >I was wondering what people's thoughts are regarding the security of code >written in JAVA, I recently reverse engineered a product with a freely >available JAVA decoder and found that it produced code with variable names >imports etc, making it very easy to find out how it hung together. Could >this be construed as a security flaw with JAVA? I wouldn't call it a flaw, but its definitively a deterrent to using JAVA in certain situations. Your comments are the *exact* reason why I use c/c++ instead of JAVA for certain applications. Of course I understand that binary executables compiled from c/c++ can be disassembled and reverse engineered too. But it is orders of magnitude more difficult to do, and there's far less people capable of doing such a thing. James Washer said... >> security-through-obscurity The choice to use c/c++ instead of JAVA is in deed an choice to ADD obscurity on top of real security. Obscurity can be a good thing so long as it's not the ONLY thing your security relies on. - hawk ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. **********************************************************************
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