* Rob Shein <shotenat_private> [020712 21:11]: > More to the point are the key copyright words, "without express written > permission." I would feel very comfortable betting a month's salary > that being hired to look for copyrighted materials by the owner of that > copyright in this fashion is just that kind of permission. :) hey, they are really proud of that. http://www.rangerinc.com Chris > > On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 04:27, Kayne Ian (Softlab) wrote: > > 2 points about this thread. > > > > First, a lot of people have posted responses to the effect of "Unless xxx > > downloads the file that is supposedly breaching copyright, they can't tell > > if you *are* breaching copyright or not, thus breaching it themselves". > > Unfortunately this isn't true (at least for EDonkey). EDonkey creates a hash > > of the file on your hd, and compares it with the hashes on everyone elses > > hd. If you're in the middle of downloading the file, Edonkey can be sure > > it's resuming the same file from someone else (regardless of filename) by > > these hashes. Therefore to prove copyright infringment, all these companies > > need to do is to confirm your hashes are the same hashes as a "real" warezed > > version of whatever movie. Of course the movie house give the company legal > > permission to download etc the file, therefore they are not in contravention > > of copyright law. So all the company does is run a donkeybot or similar, > > scan the network and log all the people who are sharing a file with hashes > > that match a warezed ver of the movie. Until it becomes illegal to own a > > checksum of a file... > > > > As a side note, this hashing works against them too. They may have been > > flooding the p2p networks with "bad" versions of movies, but all any > > sensible person needs to do is to use a website (sharereactor.com, for > > example) and use the hash link off there. Providing the website is "true" > > (and there are enough of them), you'll always be garanteed to download the > > file you actually want. > > > > Secondly, companies & "entities" in the USA really need to get a damn grip > > of themselves. A friend of mine received an email from a company saying he > > was breaching the DCMA etc for exactly the same reason as Keith Tyler. The > > problem? He lives in the UK, just like me. Sorry to tell you, no matter how > > much you don't want to believe it (and how many times you put a Skylarov in > > jail) American law does NOT apply worldwide. > > > > All that said, piracy is of course a crime. Views are my own. Standard > > disclaimer applies etc etc. > > > > Ian Kayne > > Technical Specialist - IT Solutions > > Softlab Ltd - A BMW Company > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom > > they are addressed. > > > > If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for > > delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received > > this email in error and that any use of the information contained within > > this email or attachments is strictly prohibited. > > > > Internet communications are not secure and Softlab does not accept > > any legal responsibility for the content of this message. Any opinions > > expressed in the email are those of the individual and not necessarily > > those of the Company. > > > > If you have received this email in error, or if you are concerned with > > the content of this email please notify the IT helpdesk by telephone > > on +44 (0)121 788 5480. > > > > ******************************************************************** > > -- __________________________________________________ public key fingerprint: C18B 62D1 F68C A267 944D EA9B 9CCA E658 72D8 FFF0
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