The vicious and evil use the mass ignorance of the subject of religion to turn against one another the people and ride the waves of blood to power. Judge those evil, who foster suffering and perversion. -THE LIE Subject: Re: Church of Ireland lets its hair down! From: roger@gil-blk.dnet.co.uk (Roger) Date: 1998/05/19 Message-ID: <356066d5.0at_private-n-a.net> Newsgroups: soc.culture.irish Article Segment 2 of 2 (Get Previous Segment) (Get All 2 Segments) I have not engaged in any anti-Roman Catholic slurs. I have simply highlighted the differences of beliefs in the P and RC Churches. Just because people disagree this is NOT a slur. People have been debating and interpreting the Bible since it was written. If anyone, it has been you making snide remarks, pouring scorn, and generally making unfounded allegations against other people's beliefs. This has been directed almost exclusively at Protestants, for whatever reason, although even your comment about the RC communion was inaccurate. >AND before your *brand of Chistianity* goes calling anything >anti-Christ..or unworthy..or against the teachings of Christ READ this: >1 Corinthians 12:3-31 (and remember..Paul is talking about *The Church* as >a complete body..or *The Churches* because even then there were several >Churches) And..the last verse is the kicker. >Each Church is here for a reason, each person, each country, each evil >thing, each good thing..and it's God's reason..AND you, nor me, nor anyone >of us was given the right to Judge each other or Judge God's plan..nor HIS >reason for doing things. That's one thing the bible is blatantly clear on. >Hundreds and hundreds of passages repeating to who Judges whom. As I posted earlier in one of your threads, that I believe that this is correct too. I believe that noone on this earth can judge weather another man can enter the Kingdom of Heaven, However that is not to say that one can not believe that what someone else is doing is wrong. I do not have a concordance at hand but the Bible says that we do have the right to judge in this way. If I have time I'll look the passage up and post it here (my concordance is at my old house still). >And here >is just one! "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee >shall bow to me and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one >of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one >another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock >or an occasion to fall in his brother's way." Romans 14:11-13 >How about this one..1Corinthian's 10:31.. >"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do to the glory >of God. Give none offense, neither to the Jews, not to the Gentiles, not to >the Church of God:" >Remember..God is in all..Christ is in all...the Holy Spirit is in all....WE >are the temple of GOD...WE are the CHURCH.......THAT..includes the Pope. >"Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God >dwellith in you?" 1Corinthins 3:16 > Your "Church"........ misinformed you about what Christ taught...cause he >taught us everything in the bible from Genisis on though..because he is one >with God, the Holy Spirit and each one of us.. and he always has been ..no >matter what idiotic *brand* of Christianity we see fit to label ourselves >as. I don't know what you mean about my 'brand of Christianity'. I stated that I personally believed the position of Pope to be an anti-Christian practice, which on the whole is in line with the mainstream Protestant Churches. I also said that the RC Church believes that the sacrements administered by Protestants were not Christian in their eyes. You have slammed both RC's and Protestants as bigotts for this (although you appear to be overly eager to have a special go at what Protestants believe). All I have ever said is that there is a conflict of beliefs but disagreed with you who seems to think that such disagreements are are hate filled, anti, and pogrom. I think you need to read the passage about the plank and spec of wood in the eye. >Sorry if you think I'm being harsh..but..you aren't seeing what you are >saying as anything but OK. It is pretty clear that you don't. It's what >you've been taught to think. I have always attended a Presbyterian Church. I have recently moved house and will probably attend the local Methodist Church now. I have never joined any particular congregation because I have not been happy that I completely agreed with the theology not to mention my own personal committment. I have always tried to think and choose for myself. The freedom of conscience is something that the Churches of the Reformed Faith have been quite clear about and indeed a factor in causing the Reformation. Roger
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