[IWAR] IRELAND religious conflict

From: Mixmaster (mixmasterat_private)
Date: Thu May 21 1998 - 12:31:31 PDT

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    The vicious and evil use the mass ignorance of the
    subject of religion to turn against one another the
    people and ride the waves of blood to power. Judge
    those evil, who foster suffering and perversion.
    -THE LIE
    Subject:      Re: Church of Ireland lets its hair down!
    From:         roger@gil-blk.dnet.co.uk (Roger)
    Date:         1998/05/19
    Message-ID:   <356066d5.0at_private-n-a.net>
    Newsgroups: soc.culture.irish
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    I have not engaged in any anti-Roman Catholic slurs. I have simply
    highlighted the differences of beliefs in the P and RC Churches. Just
    because people disagree this is NOT a slur. People have been debating
    and interpreting the Bible since it was written. 
    If anyone, it has been you making snide remarks, pouring scorn, and
    generally making unfounded allegations against other people's beliefs.
    This has been directed almost exclusively at Protestants, for whatever
    reason, although even your comment about the RC communion was
    >AND before your *brand of Chistianity* goes calling anything
    >anti-Christ..or unworthy..or against the teachings of Christ READ this:
    >1 Corinthians 12:3-31 (and remember..Paul is talking about *The Church* as
    >a complete body..or *The Churches* because even then there were several
    >Churches)  And..the last verse is the kicker.
    >Each Church is here for a reason, each person, each country, each evil
    >thing, each good thing..and it's God's reason..AND you, nor me, nor anyone
    >of us was given the right to Judge each other or Judge God's plan..nor HIS
    >reason for doing things.  That's one thing the bible is blatantly clear on.
    >Hundreds and hundreds of passages repeating to who Judges whom.  
    As I posted earlier in one of your threads, that I believe that this
    is correct too. I believe that noone on this earth can judge weather
    another man can enter the Kingdom of Heaven, However that is not to
    say that one can not believe that what someone else is doing is wrong.
    I do not have a concordance at hand but the Bible says that we do have
    the right to judge in this way.  If I have time I'll look the passage
    up and post it here (my concordance is at my old house still).
    >And here
    >is just one! "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee
    >shall bow to me and every tongue shall confess to God.  So then every one
    >of us shall give account of himself to God.  Let us not therefore judge one
    >another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock
    >or an occasion to fall in his brother's way."   Romans 14:11-13 
    >How about this one..1Corinthian's 10:31..
    >"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do to the glory
    >of God. Give none offense, neither to the Jews, not to the Gentiles, not to
    >the Church of God:"   
    >Remember..God is in all..Christ is in all...the Holy Spirit is in all....WE
    >are the temple of GOD...WE are the CHURCH.......THAT..includes the Pope. 
    >"Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God
    >dwellith in you?" 1Corinthins 3:16  
    > Your "Church"........ misinformed you about what Christ taught...cause he
    >taught us everything in the bible from Genisis on though..because he is one
    >with God, the Holy Spirit and each one of us.. and he always has been ..no
    >matter what idiotic *brand* of Christianity we see fit to label ourselves
    I don't know what you mean about my 'brand of Christianity'. I stated
    that I personally believed the position of Pope to be an
    anti-Christian practice, which on the whole is in line with the
    mainstream Protestant Churches. I also said that the RC Church
    believes that the sacrements administered by Protestants were not
    Christian in their eyes. You have slammed both RC's and Protestants as
    bigotts for this (although you appear to be overly eager to have a
    special go at what Protestants believe). All I have ever said is that
    there is a conflict of beliefs but disagreed with you who seems to
    think that such disagreements are are hate filled, anti, and pogrom.
    I think you need to read the passage about the plank and spec of wood
    in the eye.
    >Sorry if you think I'm being harsh..but..you aren't seeing what you are
    >saying as anything but OK.   It is pretty clear that you don't.  It's what
    >you've been taught to think.  
    I have always attended a Presbyterian Church. I have recently moved
    house and will probably attend the local Methodist Church now. I have
    never joined any particular congregation because I have not been happy
    that I completely  agreed with the theology not to mention my own
    personal committment. I have always tried to think and choose for
    myself. The freedom of conscience is something that the Churches of
    the Reformed Faith have been quite clear about and indeed a factor in
    causing the Reformation. 

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