If you don't like reading it, delete it. I enjoy chatting with my peers and each person who has made a comment so far has provide much more than their fair share of quality content to this list and group. On the other hand, most of the people who are complaining haven't done jack. If you have something useful to say, please feel free to do so. If you don't want to read jokes being passed between infosec professionals, DELETE THEM. But don't whine about it. Toby On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Ken Emmons wrote: > Let's stop being ridicules and interrupting everyone's day with this type of > non-important junk email. I joined this group and receive some very > interesting mail, just wish we could cut out the SPAM junk. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan [mailto:alan@private] > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 3:19 PM > To: Toby Kohlenberg; Kuo, Jimmy > Cc: 'Crispin Cowan '; 'Chris & Kathleen '; 'crime@private ' > Subject: Re: NIPC Daily Report, 30 October 2001 > > > On Thursday 01 November 2001 14:54, Toby Kohlenberg wrote: > > Why is not allowing me to take nail clippers on an airplane supposed to > > make me feel better? It actually makes me feel worse because it just tells > > me that the people making the rules don't have a f**king clue what they > > are doing and now they are making it impossible to defend myself against > > the terrorists they miss because they are too busy worrying about my > > grooming tools. > > It is the idea that "Something must be done. This is something, therefore we > > must do it." > > Never is it asked "would this have stopped the original crime?". If that was > > done, almost every law named after a famous crime would never have been > enacted. (When emotions get involved, reason and sanity tend to be turned > off and/or ignored.) > > I wonder what they will take away from Americans when terrorists start > shooting down planes from the outside. > > I expect that in the near future, Americans will not longer be allowed to > have anything sharper than a rubber ball. (And the rubber ball will have to > > be larger than 1.5" in diameter or someone might choke to death on it.) > Federal agents will be sent to homes to cut up your food and tuck you into > bed at night. (In order to get the religious right's buy-off, they will > also > make you say your prayers.) > > Makes you wonder what lawmakers fear more. Terrorists or American citizens. > > > > > toby > > > > On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Kuo, Jimmy wrote: > > > >For instance, can someone tell me the useful purpose of having > > > >armed soldiers at the airport metal detectors? The soldiers > > > >don't do anything, they just stand there. It's not like they > > > >know anything about detecting contraband in luggage anyway. > > > >At best, they can defend the airport gate against a frontal > > > >assault by an armed gang. But only a very small one. And no > > > >terrorist would use that approach anyway, because they would > > > >never get the plane off the ground. So what is the point? > > > > > > Compare airport crime rates at such locations for the month of October > > > vs. equivalent stats from previous years. > > > > > > That is to say, the purpose is not what you make it out to be. > > > > > > The stated purpose has been, to make the travelling public feel safer > > > about travelling. > > > > > > Jimmy >
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