RE: Scam

From: Shepherd, Chris (Chris.Shepherd@private)
Date: Thu Nov 08 2001 - 14:08:05 PST

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    I do not usually respond unless a need arises, or prompted, but today I
    will.
    
    This type of response is poor professional etiquette and reflects a lack of
    common courtesy.  Any type of comment such as this should be done directly
    to the person one-on-one or, based on the excuse given below, should not be
    said at all unless you have the right and authority to so.
    
    Poor professional skills are no excuse for embarrassing or under-cutting
    another.
    
    Now, that being said, I can only respond in kind due to the masking of
    identity.
    
    Please, please, please, let us make this a good list that strives to cut the
    edge not cut the participants.
    
    Chris Shepherd
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Anonymous [mailto:nobody@private]
    Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:06 PM
    To: crime@private
    Subject: RE: Scam
    
    
    At 11:40 AM 11/6/01 -0800, Heidi wrote:
    >John, excuse me for putting the question out on the CRIME list.  Some
    people
    >did not respond the way you did and were very helpful.  Some of us out here
    >are learning and do not have the experience you do. I am sorry for
    >"clogging" the CRIME list. I had also already acknowledged that I got the
    >message it was a hoax and thanked everyone for their responses and hoped
    >that would stop any further responses. Heidi
    
    I can't speak for John or anyone else but, in all honesty Heidi, you ask
    questions that are 
    often marginal and deal with very elementary issues and reflect both
    ignorance, which is no-
    fault, but also a failure to do any basic research at all, which I have a
    problem with.
    
    For example a Google search on "Nigerian fraud" yields the Secret Service on
    the first page of 
    hits: http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/alert419.htm
    
    The USSS has a database for these frauds and you can either fax them to
    (202) 406-5031 or e-
    mail them to 419.fcd@private
    
    On Denial of Service attacks, the first page of Google hits yields Dave
    Dietrich's page up at 
    U.Washington with a huge amount of information including ingress and egress
    filtering.
    
    So I would encourage you to try some basic research before you show your
    ignorance in the 
    future and I would encourage the group to respond to any elementary
    questions with URL's 
    instead of a quick summary paragraph and apply the truism, "if you teach a
    (wo)man to fish."
    
    IRT anonymous?  Heidi, I believe we've met and I don't feel comfortable
    criticizing you without 
    fear that it will come back to haunt me.
    



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