RE: CRIME BlackHat and DefCon

From: brvarin@private
Date: Wed Aug 07 2002 - 11:59:08 PDT

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    How about a Oregon CRIME caravan to Las Vegas.?
    
    
    
    
    From: "Andrew Plato" <aplato@private>@cs.pdx.edu on 08/07/2002 10:24 AM
    
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    To:   "Jordan Gackowski" <jgackowski@private>, <crime@private>
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    Subject:  RE: CRIME BlackHat and DefCon
    
    
    Yeah, I wanted to go this year, but as usual I was loaded down with
    customer work and couldn't get away. Next year, I'm clearing my calender
    and will go.
    
    I always wanted to put on a similar conference in the Pacific Northwest.
    Anitian started building plans to do a "Pacific Northwest Security Summit"
    last year, but abandoneded it because it was just too expensive and time
    consuming. Opting instead for smaller, sponsored seminars. Maybe the time
    is ripe to do an Oregon version of DefCon/BlackHat?
    
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    Anitian Corporation
    
    (503) 644-5656 office
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Jordan Gackowski [mailto:jgackowski@private]
    > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:50 AM
    > To: crime@private
    > Subject: RE: CRIME BlackHat and DefCon
    >
    >
    >
    > Well...  the naked women can be attributed to Vegas in
    > general - so go any time you feel like it.
    >
    > However, DefCon is the best bargain out there.  I encourage
    > everyone to
    > attend next year.  It was $75 to attend.  So, even if you
    > don't want to be
    > part of the "festivities" and just go listen to the speakers
    > it is a great
    > bargain.  Compare it to blackhat the week before - it was
    > ~$1200.  Granted,
    > it was a little more organized and refined and there were
    > more speakers and
    > they had cookies and coffee on the afternoon breaks.  But the
    > content was
    > remarkably similar;  MANY of the speakers gave the same
    > presentation at
    > both conferences.
    >
    > The Con was $75, the plane ticket was $166 on delta and if
    > you bargain hunt
    > around for a hotel you can get by for pretty cheap.  So, even
    > if my company
    > didn't pick up the tab I'd still go.
    >
    > Just something for you guys out there on the list to think
    > about for next
    > year.
    >
    > _______________
    > Jordan Gackowski
    > jgackowski@private
    > Security Consultant
    > Symantec Corp.
    



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