Re: CRIME Legal info on carnivore

From: Mike (mcuciti@private)
Date: Wed Aug 07 2002 - 18:36:38 PDT

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    Crispin:
    
    Well said...
    
    Ken:
    
    Lighten up, He forgives... :-)
    
    -Mike
    
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Crispin Cowan" <crispin@private>
    To: "Ken Emmons" <KENEMM@private>
    Cc: <crime@private>
    Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:26 AM
    Subject: Re: CRIME Legal info on carnivore
    
    
    > Ken Emmons wrote:
    >
    > >I am shocked at the responses I received from members of this group.
    > >
    > So you're new to the Internet then :)  If the phrase "god damned"
    > offends you, then you clearly don't get out much. Hence forth, please
    > consider any form of language the speaker chooses to use to be
    > "professional", so long as it is comprehensible, relevant tot the topic
    > at hand, and free of personal attacks. So far, the only unprofessional
    > post was yours (off topic personal attack).
    >
    > >  I am
    > >not a religious freak just a professional and a person who believes in
    GOD.
    > >As a person I do take offense to some things just as all of us do.
    > >
    > Uh, no. If someone came in here and started discussing necrophilia with
    > underage goats, my main objection would be that it is off-topic :)
    >
    > >  I did
    > >not mean to get off track I just wanted to send an email to the person
    who
    > >send the unprofessional email with bad language.
    > >
    > There was NOTHING unprofessional about that post. Unprofessional was
    > injecting your religous prejudices into a technical discussion, and
    > posting the private e-mail I sent you to a public list.
    >
    > >I was surprised to see so many GOD hating people who became hateful and
    > >irate at the mention of His name. It sounds to me that Crispin is the one
    > >who is intolerant. I wonder who he worships if not God :)
    > >
    > Hell no :)
    >
    > Remember: obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers.
    >
    > ObSecurity: I expect to get several bounce messages from this post due
    > to assorted corporate content filtering systems. I view such systems
    > primarily as a vulnerability, because they can easily filter out
    > important technical data. Consider what would happen if your
    > subscription to bugtraq was filtered to remove a critical announcement
    > of a vulnerability that affects you, merely because the immature
    > children who wrote the post included a comment in the source code that
    > said "fuckers! we 0wn j00".
    >
    > Crispin
    >
    > --
    > Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.
    > Chief Scientist, WireX                      http://wirex.com/~crispin/
    > Security Hardened Linux Distribution:       http://immunix.org
    > Available for purchase: http://wirex.com/Products/Immunix/purchase.html
    >
    >
    >
    



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