RE: CRIME Identification Alternatives

From: James Wilcox (jim_wilcox@private)
Date: Mon Dec 16 2002 - 07:46:06 PST

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    What I really want is all my biometric readings in a national database that
    I know will absolutely be safe and will never be abused by someone like John
    Ashcroft (whose own state, don't forget, voted against in favor of a guy
    they knew was dead).
    
    In other words, I'm with Crispin and Andrew on this one.
    
    James R. Wilcox, CISSP
    503 245-6934
    503 799-8438 mobile
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: owner-crime@private [mailto:owner-crime@private]On Behalf Of
    Andrew Plato
    Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 4:07 PM
    To: crime@private
    Cc: T. Kenji Sugahara; Crispin Cowan
    Subject: RE: CRIME Identification Alternatives
    
    I agree wholeheartedly with Crispin, national ID is a bad idea.
    
    The thought of my identity being authenticated from an agency that hired
    the lowest bidder to implement and design the entire system makes me
    more than a little nervous.
    
    ___________________________________
    Andrew Plato, CISSP
    President / Principal Consultant
    Anitian Corporation
    
    503-644-5656 Office
    503-644-8574 Fax
    503-201-0821 Mobile
    www.anitian.com
    ___________________________________
    
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    
    > There are two large problems with national ID, and this proposal only
    > addresses one of them. The problem it addresses (and not all
    > that well)
    > is the civil liberties issue of making it too easy for the
    > Government to
    > track your personal activities.
    >
    > The problem it does not address is identity theft: no matter
    > what ID you
    > specify, if it becomes a national ID, then its value as an identity
    > theft document increases a lot. The offices that issue these
    > credentials
    > don't do a great job of authenticating applicants, and the cards
    > themselves are not very tamper-resistant or difficult to forge.
    > Therefore, making them valid national IDs just increases the
    > motive to
    > steal or fake them.
    >
    > National ID is a pathologically bad idea. But various branches of the
    > Government won't give it up because the ways in which it is
    > pathological
    > are non-obvious.
    >
    > Crispin
    >
    > --
    > Crispin Cowan, Ph.D.
    > Chief Scientist, WireX                      http://wirex.com/~crispin/
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    > Available for purchase:
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    >
    >           Just say ".Nyet"
    >
    >
    



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