RE: CRIME SOBIG ADVISORY

From: Kuo, Jimmy (Jimmy_Kuo@private)
Date: Thu Aug 21 2003 - 15:53:25 PDT

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    I have already put forth the suggestion that we flag the viruses where the
    From field can't be trusted and code the program to not send such a message
    when one such is found.  We won't happen any time soon, however.  :-(
    
    My other point is that the admins could turn the whole mechanism off too.
    
    Jimmy
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Seth Arnold [mailto:sarnold@private]
    Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:54 PM
    To: 'crime@private '
    Subject: Re: CRIME SOBIG ADVISORY
    
    
    On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 02:48:11PM -0700, Kuo, Jimmy wrote:
    > Are you referring to the situation where you get the Undeliverable message
    > because your name got forged in the From field, or about warnings issued
    by
    > AV companies on all the viruses, or both?
    
    Jimmy, if you are in position of sufficient influence, please, for the
    love of god please, get those silly "your message was <foo>" out of the
    virus scanners. :)
    
    The From_ line can't be trusted. The From: line can't be trusted. Both
    are forged these days.
    
    What I advocate for instead is the MTA returning a diagnostic before
    accepting the message for delivery -- that way, guilty people with olde
    fashionede virusese will still get the helpful notice they are infected,
    and innocent people [who incidently don't run outlook] don't get notified
    that a From_ or From: was forged.
    
    While I'm dreaming, I'd also like to see my gpg signatures let through. :)
    
    [Yes, bugtraq posts with gpg signatures kinda suck; 20+ "i'm on
    vacation" messages, 10+ "we've got a virus!!" messages...]
    
    </rant>
    
    -- 
    "Now there are some who would like to re-write history --- `revisionist
    histororians' is what I like to call them."
      -- Pres. Bush on forged intelligence in the state of the union address
    



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