Toby, Unless that law enforcement officer knew your name or you made a point of stating it when asking a question, how would they know who you were. Law enforcement officers are always taking notes, even when talking to a victim of a crime. I think your inferences that they are taking down your name to perform "follow up" investigations is outrageous. C -Kris -----Original Message----- From: owner-crime@private [mailto:owner-crime@private] On Behalf Of toby Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 11:59 AM To: crime@private; rsvp@private; savages@private; Michael.S.Curtis@private Subject: Re: CRIME Re: RSVP December 18th Meeting -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Interestingly enough, I didn't see a any attempt to create an "atmosphere of trust", I saw a representative of the DOJ present a talk on why you should be okay with the PATRIOT act and why there isn't anything wrong while a group of people (apparently mostly law enforcement but not all) stood at the back of the room and noted who asked questions and what they asked about. Drink your nice cool-ade people. t On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:56:14 -0800 Michael S Curtis <Michael.S.Curtis@private> wrote: >Most people, when giving a presentation will give some consideration to >the intended audience. If I am talking to technical security people >then my presentation is certainly different than a talk to a Lions >Club, and I would not appreciate or approve of my presentations later >being mixed. > >I am not a formal member of Infragard, but have watched them grow for a >couple of years. I do appreciate their efforts, they are trying to >create an atmosphere of trust between public and private agencies where >the players can share critical information - and not see themselves >misquoted on the 6:00 news. > >I believe your comments are not conducive to the free exchange of >information, and I personally find all of your quotes offensive. > I know many security professionals in and out of law enforcement, >both in the public and private sector, and I have never seen or worked >with anyone that would exemplify or typify the kind of attitudes you >express. > >But thanks for sharing, that's what its all about. > >Michael > > >Michael Curtis >Information Security Officer >Law Enforcement Data System >Oregon State Police >503-378-3055 x55004 > >>>> Shaun Savage <savages@private> 12/17/2003 6:45:24 PM >>> > >This gives me a great new angle. >"Why does Law enforcement not like freedom of the press?" or "What do >they have to hide" or "Secrets the government wants to keep from you >about your privacy" > > >RSVP Oregon Infragard wrote: >> I have presented your request to the board of directors and the >presenters. They have requested that the presentation not be video >taped. If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to give >me a call. >> >> Phil R. Slinkard >> Special Agent >> Cyber Division >> FBI * Portland Division >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> >> From: Shaun Savage <savages@private> >> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:28:09 -0800 >> >> >>>Shaun Savage, I would like to video tape the event using TVTV >> >>>equipment. Then I could air it on public TV channel 11,23,... >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > > "I have gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain" - -Tool -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.3 wkYEARECAAYFAj/iB0QACgkQgmQPhCwzFyDmzACgmcFPtsW98cNApsX1wNSoBeAi9HoA njcZm0MNwUTdFABybIw/dNq7vw1z =qoH3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Concerned about your privacy? Follow this link to get FREE encrypted email: https://www.hushmail.com/?l=2 Free, ultra-private instant messaging with Hush Messenger https://www.hushmail.com/services.php?subloc=messenger&l=434 Promote security and make money with the Hushmail Affiliate Program: https://www.hushmail.com/about.php?subloc=affiliate&l=427
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