RE: A question for the list...

From: Russell Harding (hardingrat_private)
Date: Fri May 30 2003 - 08:44:05 PDT

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    Just a great followup to the effectiveness of spam filtering...
    
      I recieved quite a few bounces from the original messaeg due to my use
    of the actual brand name of the drug listed below.
    
       There, you can now add a few percentage points for false positives.
    
     -Russell
    
    On Thu, 29 May 2003, Russell Harding wrote:
    
    > Hello all,
    >
    > <snip, comments below>
    > > You're missing a critical problem here; evidence.  Collecting evidence from
    > > foreign companies (the biggest spammer may be American, but he uses foreign
    > > servers and ISPs) is a lot harder than it is from companies based here.
    > > Lack of feet on the ground aside, subpoenas have no force, and god knows
    > > what other possible obstacles (like payoffs) could come into play also.
    > > Ultimately, it would be simple to make it nightmarishly hard to trace an
    > > email back to the server, from the server to the ISP, from the ISP to the
    > > customer/spammer.
    > >
    >
    > While the above point is quite true, (we live in a litigious society,
    > however, _very_ few cases of purely technical nature ever go to
    > trial... When I say purely techinical, I mean cases involving only hacking
    > / spamming.  Most cases tried contain other fraudulent / destructive /
    > espionage senarios).  The courts are not equipped for this sort of thing.
    >
    >   Regardless, most spam is selling something.  You can always find the
    > source if you look to the people the spam is advertising for.  If there
    > was a crackdown on illegal V1agra sales by the FDA in the US, I'm sure
    > that V1agra spam would slow.
    >
    >   After all, there is no better way to get the feds paying attention to
    > your illegal business than sending out 10,000,000 emails.
    >
    >      -Russell Harding
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