Re: Authoritative hooks updated to 2.4.13

From: Chris Wright (chrisat_private)
Date: Fri Oct 26 2001 - 11:20:45 PDT

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    * Stephen Smalley (sdsat_private) wrote:
    > 
    > On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, richard offer wrote:
    > 
    > > With no subsequent discussion following posting of the last patch (which
    > > incorporated changes to meet Chris's suggestions) all the issues appear to
    > > have been put to bed so there should be no reason for not moving forward
    > > with this.
    > 
    > And now, for a non-technical comment, when the LSM patch is submitted to
    > the kernel developers for consideration into 2.5, we will need to be able
    > to provide evidence that the changes made by LSM are needed by real
    > security modules.  I would expect even greater need for concrete justification
    > for the kinds of changes made by the authoritative hooks patch, since it
    > is more invasive and increases the likelihood that a security module may
    > accidentally open a vulnerability in the base logic.  For the current LSM
    > patch, we have concrete open source examples such as the capabilities
    > module, the SELinux module and the DTE module (and more underway by the
    > IBM folks, right?).  For authoritative hooks, we currently have nothing.
    > And I don't think a trivial example module would be helpful - we need
    > a real security module that is open source that demonstrates the need for
    > these additional changes.  I don't think that the kernel developers will
    > be swayed by hand waving about unreleased or closed source security
    > modules.
    
    this is _exactly_ my main concern!  i, personally, like the idea of
    starting with the easy to understand restrictive hooks, and as we gain
    credibility push for authoritative.
    
    -chris
    
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