Re: LSM Summer BOF's

crispinat_private

Greg KH wrote:

>On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:01:15PM -0800, Crispin Cowan wrote:
>
>>   * the OLS way:
>>         * Authors submit 1 or 2 paragraph proposals.
>>         * No such thing as multiple authors.
>>
>Untrue.  There have been papers in the past that were done by multiple
>people, and there were papers accepted this year that are being done by
>multiple people.  There have also been multiple people giving a single
>presentation in past years.
>
Ok. I got that from an off-hand comment from Chris. I'll forget it now.

>>* I presume that proposals are valued at least as much on the
>>           basis of the proposer as on the proposed content.
>>
>Which can be argued might be a benefit.
>
Of course. I agree that it is a benefit. At most conferences, you can 
optimize your experience by favoring presentations based on the 
presenter instead of the content.

The catch is that it has a down-side in the long term, because it tends 
to disadvantage newbies. Perhaps OLS will get away with it because of 
Linux's fairly newbie-friendly environment, which allows someone to 
become "known" outside of OLS, and thus gain entry.

>>The OLS way closely approximates the way that other conferences select 
>>Keynote or Invited Speaker talks: pick out some folks that you can trust 
>>to give good talk, and give them a podium and some latitude. It's not 
>>bad, but it is different, and has different effects, especially in the 
>>long term. If OLS continues on in this way, then 20 years from now only 
>>the well-established olde boys of the Linux Oligarchy will be able to 
>>speak at OLS, and newbies will get to shut up and listen to their elders :-)
>>
>Remember this is not a "academic" conference.  One could argue that your
>expectations of a conference are tainted by your USENIX experience. :)
>
Sure. That's why I called it "not bad, just different."  And for that 
matter, many hard core academics don't think that USENIX is an academic 
conference, either. As I said, it's all relative.

Crispin

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