Re: About Auditing ...

From: Casey Schaufler (caseyat_private)
Date: Tue Aug 12 2003 - 15:23:28 PDT

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    Valdis.Kletnieksat_private wrote:
    > 
    > On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:42:10 EDT, Ripin Natani <ripinfsat_private>  said:
    > 
    > > I was going through the mail archives and found a lot of mails debating =
    > > about the inclusion of auditing. So what is the status of auditing with =
    > > SELinux ? I
    > 
    > Auditing is *OUT*, currently.  The biggest problem is that any proper
    > auditing scheme would require the logging of "fail" and "succeed" records
    > for cases where the code had made the decision long before it ever got
    > to the LSM hook.  The canonical example is 'touch foo; chmod 0 foo; cat foo" -
    > there needs to be a "fail" logged on the permissions check, which never bothers
    > calling LSM because it already KNOWS it has failed.
    > 
    > To fix this would require one of:
    > 
    > 1) *MUCH* more intrusive hooking to add logging at the appropriate points.
    > 
    > 2) Changing LSM to be an "authoritative" rather than "restrictive" system, so
    > the LSM hooks would ALWAYS be called.
    > 
    > Both were considered undoable for the 2.6 timeframe.
    
    The LSM consensus was that these were undoable.
    A minority continues to disagree, but quietly.
    
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    Casey Schaufler				Manager, Trust Technology, SGI
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