Re: [logs] Logging standards?

From: todd glassey (todd.glasseyat_private)
Date: Sat Oct 27 2001 - 17:33:19 PDT

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    Rich - without a reasonable time management and verification regimen
    Computer Records are only as reliable as the person testifying as to their
    veracity. Even then, without an accompanying infrastructure that supports
    their veracity and the audits to say that the systems was/were being
    operated "properly"... you got squat.(IMHO at least)
    
    Personally I think that should be inherently obvious and has always been one
    of the arrogances of Systems Admins as a whole - "the how dare you our word"
    mindset, and I am sorry - it just doesn't wash anymore.
    
    These records must in commercial environments stand the test of time and
    veracity as well and that means that they need significantly more than they
    have today.
    
    This is just my opinion of course but I am willing to lay wager on it.
    
    Todd
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Rich Salz" <rsalzat_private>
    To: "todd glassey" <todd.glasseyat_private>
    Cc: "Carl Husa" <carlhusaat_private>; <loganalysisat_private>
    Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 3:07 PM
    Subject: Re: [logs] Logging standards?
    
    
    > >tracking its divergence from UTC during the session?
    >
    > Unh, why?
    
    because in ten years when I try to corelate them to something that happened
    in another computer I need something that is exactly the same between both
    systems to link the log events - and that is not the stable ticking of the
    clocks of these systems, but that they bot have something known in them at
    the instant of the transaction. So its that time that I am concerned in. Now
    it happens to be a whole lot easier for everyone if the Time used is UTC.
    
    >
    > Most people don't calibrate their watches very often and that's fine for
    > evidence.
    >
    > Relative time, timezones -- not beyond the understanding of the courts.
    > /r$
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