RE: Covert Channels

From: Jeff Nathan (jeffat_private)
Date: Fri Oct 18 2002 - 09:45:52 PDT

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    - --On Thursday, October 17, 2002 21:02:16 +0100 Dom De Vitto 
    <domat_private> wrote:
    
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    > I'd also suggest you check out cutting edge anti-ids techniques,
    > including using urgent data points and boundary anomalies to cause
    > IDSs to reform data streams differently to OS IP stacks.
    
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    I wouldn't want to nit-pick but in the case of stream reassembly evasion 
    and NIDS evasion in general, those sorts of techniques are at least 4 years 
    old.  In the case of urgent data there still may be some valid evasion 
    techniques lingering from historical implementations but their result will 
    largely be an off-by-one in the handling of  urgent data for strictly RFC 
    compliant stacks.
    
    An inline device, of course, doesn't suffer from these issues.  It simply 
    enforces a policy, including that of dropping packets that aren't quite 
    right.
    
    - -Jeff
    
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