FC: Australia: DNA samples taken from crime witnesses, phone privacy

From: Declan McCullagh (declanat_private)
Date: Tue Nov 19 2002 - 21:55:11 PST

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    [The article attributes the following sentiment to Police Minister Michelle 
    Robert:"If people had not committed crimes they would have nothing to worry 
    about." Perhaps Michelle will volunteer for forcible DNA testing herself? I 
    hope she will have no objections when concerned citizens forcibly extract 
    DNA from her children, parents, and relatives -- just in case. After all, 
    if they committed no crimes, they should have nothing to worry about. 
    Right? Not to mention the unintended consequences: People witnessing a 
    crime may be more reluctant to call the cops or stick around to provide 
    vital information, knowing they may be handing over their DNA by doing so. 
    From: "Russell B. Farr" <rustleat_private>
    Organization: Ticonderoga Publications
    To: declanat_private
    Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:09:27 +0800
    Hi Declan,
    This may be of interest to the Politech list.
    POLICE have been given far-reaching powers to take DNA samples from
    witnesses and victims of crime as well as suspects.
    Under the Criminal Investigation (Identifying People) Act 2002, which
    became law at midnight, police can forcibly take a DNA sample when a
    person refuses to give one.
    (sorry, URL breaks over the line).
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    Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:30:40 +1100
    From: Red Wolf <redwolfat_private>
    Organization: Red Wolf Web Design
    To: declanat_private
    Subject: Article: Telstra defends eavesdropping
    hey Declan
    Thought you'd find this of interest for the Politechbot list.
    Australians don't have to just worry about the law enforcement community 
    spying on them, we also have to contend with the telecommunications 
    industry abusing their rights.
    I guess the moral of the story is: don't complain about bad phone service 
    if you value your privacy.
    Jodi Red Wolf
    Telstra defends eavesdropping
    NOVEMBER 20, 2002
    TELSTRA did not tap customers' phones but had the right to listen in to 
    conversations if people complained about a fault, the telecommunications 
    giant said.
    Telstra admitted the company had listened in to the phone calls of Brisbane 
    businesswoman Ann Garms during a dispute with the company in the early 
    1990s, and passed the information on to lawyers.
    But Telstra managing director of corporate and human resources Bill Scales 
    took offence at senators asking about Telstra's phone tapping policy during 
    an estimates committee hearing.
    He said Telstra had only been trying to fix Mrs Garms' phone line and would 
    do the same for any customer who complained about a fault.
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