Free Unqualified Advice (was RE: Changes in the security marketplace)

From: Steve (steveat_private)
Date: Wed May 02 2001 - 18:32:55 PDT

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    Seeing how after my post hit the mailing list I got flooded with emails of
    people asking what I did to find a new job etc etc.  I thought I would post
    my opinions (AND MY OPINIONS ONLY)and recommendations here.
    
    I first contacted everyone and anyone in the InfoSec community that I have
    good relationships with and told them that I was looking for work.  I have a
    lot of personal thank you letters and bottles of wine to send out as a
    result but it is worth it.
    
    I then hit the usual spots.
    
    Monster.com
    Monster.ca
    Workopolis.com
    Dice.com, and
    GeekFinder.com
    
    I also posted my resume on my personal web site.
    
    I then posted my resume to this mailing list
    
    securityjobsat_private
    
    Then, I sent emails to LJ Kushner & Assoc. and Alta Assoc.
    
    I was very impressed with LJ Kushner (www.ljkushner.com) as I received a
    call back a day after sending in my resume.  Unfortunately, I did not hear
    from Alta after sending them an email.  Not wanting to wait for the phone to
    ring (I am kind of impatient when my paycheck is involved) I then started
    surfing security companies web sites that I thought I might want to work for
    and submitted my resume.  Only after doing this did I sit back and let the
    phone ring.  :-)
    
    To be perfectly honest, the position I ended up with came from one of my own
    contacts that I contacted the day I was let go.  But, I do have to say that
    I was very impressed with the mileage I got out of LJ Kushner and another
    company who is in Vancouver, Tek Systems.  Tek Systems had found my resume
    on Monster.Ca and had me set up with a few interviews and even up to today I
    still get phone calls from LJ Kushner which I definitely appreciate.  They
    certainly seem to know the security market and had some good advice to offer
    me.
    
    I did however, get a lot of really dumb headhunters calling me based on
    posts to the job boards but that is to be expected and must be sifted
    through in order to find a good position.
    
    If I had to offer advice to recruiters/companies hiring -- if the person you
    are talking to has been let go from a failing company efficiency is the key.
    I am assuming that most people are like me and don't exactly anticipate
    losing their jobs and therefore want/need to find new employment as quickly
    as possible.  Understandably proper background and reference checks need to
    be done but taking too long will result in a good candidate going elsewhere.
    
    Just my $.02 (Canadian) and I hope someone on this list finds it useful.
    
    Regards;
    
    Steve Manzuik
    



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