IMHO, the key word used in describing success vs. failure is "market", not "dot com". Those who realize that, survived. Those who did not, failed. Q.E.D. And those who survived through recognizing that they are market driven and not "cute gadget" driven now realize that they will have to invest in IS Security. Which is the mainstay of this list. V/R Jim Meritt Ben Weber wrote: > > I would have to disagree. The market will pick up, and is still better than > it was before the biotech explosion a few years ago. To forecast such a > pessimistic view seems premature at best. The security "market", at that, > is growing and will continue to grow for a long time. My contention is that > the market will right itself, and yes, will have weeded out the dot com > failures. However, the dot com market is not dead. I know of plenty of > these such companies that are doing just fine and will continue to do so. > As knowledge of the benefits of having a security professional on board > increase, subsequently so will the market for security professionals in this > arena. > > Do you not have faith in those that have created the most influential and > knowledgeable IT market in the world? > > -a recruitment consultant. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tadiat_private [mailto:tadiat_private] > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 2:09 AM > To: Jeff Gentry; securityjobsat_private > Subject: "Peanut Gallery" > > the market will not pick up, the dot com era is history. I have trouble > explaining this concept to security people world wide when they ask for jobs > and hit me with a dotcom millionaire's salary and package requirements. the > supply of candidates floating around unemployed and available has > multiplied. everyone is taking less money because of the demand for jobs and > the quantity of candidates available gives employers much more variety to > pick from in what was once a "skill short market" welcome back to reality. > > -a head-hunter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Gentry [mailto:listuserat_private] > Sent: 25 June 2001 01:41 > To: Mark Villanova > Cc: Kenat_private; securityjobsat_private > Subject: RE: Random Thoughts from the "Peanut Gallery" > > > out there. And this market slump cannot last forever. When the market > > improves, companies will have to pay us what we are worth or lose us to > > One could make the argument that most of us were being overpaid in the > recent upswing, and that things like this are merely bringing wages back > in line with reality. > > -- > Jeff Gentry jesterat_private gentrjat_private > SEX DRUGS UNIX -- James W. Meritt, CISSP, CISA Booz, Allen & Hamilton phone: (410) 684-6566
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