Good Lord people...where are you finding these lousy recruiters??? Apparently I'm the one of the only ones out there that actually follow up with my candidates. There is another possibility....that the job got put on hold until some arm-chair-general approves it. Still that's no excuse not to pick up the damn phone and call. Here's some good tips in dealing with agency recruiters. ALWAYS interview them before you work with them. Find out who their clients are, how many people they've placed at the company they're presenting to you, etc....Find out if they're blowing smoke up your ass. Tell them up front, no communication means no $$$! Advise them that if you don't hear from them for more than 2 weeks, not to bother calling you back. Hope you all have a wonderful evening! Chris -----Original Message----- From: Jim Utkin [mailto:utkinat_private] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 7:48 AM To: 'Conor'; Nokiagal13at_private; securityjobsat_private Subject: RE: advice please I agree, in my experience with recruiters. Most are like used car salesman, they are your best fried if they have a prospect for you. Once the prospect leave so they do. My favorite is when the Recruiters play like they are trying to build a long term relationship :) Take it with a grain of salt... Unfortunately as Conor said, if they haven't called you in three weeks, chances are good they have moved on. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Conor [mailto:ccrowleyat_private] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:50 AM To: Nokiagal13at_private; securityjobsat_private Subject: Re: advice please I disagree. After three weeks... forget him. Call direct. Unfortunately for you, this probably means they're not going to bite. This is way too common a practice (has happened to me a lot). As soon as they realize they're not going to make a buck off you, they won't even take your call. And they talk about professionalism... ..Conor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spencer, Ed M. -ND" <Ed.M.Spencer.-NDat_private> To: <Nokiagal13at_private>; <securityjobsat_private> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: RE: advice please > 1. Don't call the company direct - it can appear unprofessional. > 2. If the recruiter isn't staying in touch, find another recruiter and/or > recruiting company. > 3. If you just HAVE to use that recruiter - call the manager at the > recruiting company. Maybe they don't work there anymore or are out sick > (giving them the benefit of the doubt). > > If none of the above work you can try to find out what other staffing > companies fill positions at that company and try to work with one of them. > I would recommend heavily against calling the company direct. Chances are > you signed a non-compete/non-disclosure agreement preventing you from > applying with the company direct. Calling the company direct could be > viewed as a violation of that agreement so tread carefully. > > I'm not one to wait too long for the recruiter to place me. Think of it > this way - you don't have a job and they do. As long as they meet thier > quota your getting placed isn't going to keep them up at night. However, > your not working could mean another week of beans and weenies, or top ramen. > > Remember that there are plenty of staffing companies out there, when you > find a good one stick with them, when you find a bad one warn others. :-) > > Good luck! > Ed Spencer > MCSE/MCT/CNA/A+/Network+ > Security Analyst - IS Security > Renaissance Worldwide, Inc. - Walt Disney World > > This communication is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) > above and may contain trade secrets or other information that is exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please immediately notify us by calling (407) 566-5195. The ideas, > opinions, and information expressed within the above email are the express > sole opinion of the author and are not the opinion of the Walt Disney World > Corporation. Thank you. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nokiagal13at_private [mailto:Nokiagal13at_private] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 3:44 AM > To: securityjobsat_private > Subject: advice please > > > Hi > > I am currently looking for a job and I was working with a Recruiter, for > some reason or another ( I have no idea why) this guy just fell off the face > of the earth. He doesn't return my calls or e-mails when I try to follow up > with him on stuff. Anyway, one of the jobs he put me up for I really want > and I know I am qualified to do, but I can't get a hold of him to find out > the feedback on it, can I call the company direct? It has been 3 weeks > since I spoke to him last, he kept asking for all of these things > (references, letters of rec, etc..), then he disappeared. Any advice on how > to handle this? > > Thanks >
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