RE: advice please

From: Jim Utkin (utkinat_private)
Date: Wed Jul 11 2001 - 06:48:07 PDT

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    I agree, in my experience with recruiters. Most are like used car
    salesman, they are your best fried if they have a prospect for you. Once
    the prospect leave so they do.  My favorite is when the Recruiters play
    like they are trying to build a long term relationship :)
    
    Take it with a grain of salt... Unfortunately as Conor said, if they
    haven't called you in three weeks, chances are good they have moved on.
    
    Jim
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Conor [mailto:ccrowleyat_private] 
    Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:50 AM
    To: Nokiagal13at_private; securityjobsat_private
    Subject: Re: advice please
    
    I disagree. After three weeks... forget him. Call direct. Unfortunately
    for
    you, this probably means they're not going to bite. This is way too
    common a
    practice (has happened to me a lot). As soon as they realize they're not
    going to make a buck off you, they won't even take your call. And they
    talk
    about professionalism...
    
    ..Conor
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Spencer, Ed M. -ND" <Ed.M.Spencer.-NDat_private>
    To: <Nokiagal13at_private>; <securityjobsat_private>
    Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:09 PM
    Subject: RE: advice please
    
    
    > 1. Don't call the company direct - it can appear unprofessional.
    > 2. If the recruiter isn't staying in touch, find another recruiter
    and/or
    > recruiting company.
    > 3. If you just HAVE to use that recruiter - call the manager at the
    > recruiting company.  Maybe they don't work there anymore or are out
    sick
    > (giving them the benefit of the doubt).
    >
    > If none of the above work you can try to find out what other staffing
    > companies fill positions at that company and try to work with one of
    them.
    > I would recommend heavily against calling the company direct.  Chances
    are
    > you signed a non-compete/non-disclosure agreement preventing you from
    > applying with the company direct.  Calling the company direct could be
    > viewed as a violation of that agreement so tread carefully.
    >
    > I'm not one to wait too long for the recruiter to place me.  Think of
    it
    > this way - you don't have a job and they do.  As long as they meet
    thier
    > quota your getting placed isn't going to keep them up at night.
    However,
    > your not working could mean another week of beans and weenies, or top
    ramen.
    >
    > Remember that there are plenty of staffing companies out there, when
    you
    > find a good one stick with them, when you find a bad one warn others.
    :-)
    >
    > Good luck!
    > Ed Spencer
    > MCSE/MCT/CNA/A+/Network+
    > Security Analyst - IS Security
    > Renaissance Worldwide, Inc. - Walt Disney World
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    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Nokiagal13at_private [mailto:Nokiagal13at_private]
    > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 3:44 AM
    > To: securityjobsat_private
    > Subject: advice please
    >
    >
    > Hi
    >
    > I am currently looking for a job and I was working with  a Recruiter,
    for
    > some reason or another ( I have no idea why) this guy just fell off
    the
    face
    > of the earth.  He doesn't return my calls or e-mails when I try to
    follow
    up
    > with him on stuff.  Anyway, one of the jobs he put me up for I really
    want
    > and I know I am qualified to do, but I can't get a hold of him to find
    out
    > the feedback on it, can I call the company direct?  It has been 3
    weeks
    > since I spoke to him last, he kept asking for all of these things
    > (references, letters of rec, etc..), then he disappeared.  Any advice
    on
    how
    > to handle this?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    



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