-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Actually, I have had to pay back training costs - specifically some MS Exchange training as well as the costs of my MCSE tests. A good friend of mine tried to fight this in a Florida court and lost about $12,000. He had the costs of a CCIE boot camp and the costs of his first two tries at the lab, plus travel expenses. Its pretty easy to quantify. Almost all the companies I've worked for - whether local, international, enterprise or consulting, have had these agreements. Best regards, Joe - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Teelucksingh" <tony2at_private> To: <securityjobsat_private> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:50 PM Subject: Re: How common are NCA's? > In my view, this type of restriction is the easiest non-compete to > defeat. Generally, you can't prevent someone from walking out the > door and working for a competitor simply because they're good at > it. The reasons should be related to some trade secret, > confidential or proprietary information that belongs to the > employer which was used in the employee's training and would likely > be used in the employee's new position. Generic training about > common knowledge (in the industry) design won't cut it. > > I might add that I've never heard of an employer recovering > "training costs" from an employee that either quit or was fired. > How do you quantify that? Second, if an employer is entitled to the > training costs from a failed employment situation, is the employee > entitled to compensation for the months and perhaps years of > his/her life spent with a dead end job? > > I'm curious to know if your agreements have ever been tested in > court. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin Dion" <martin.dionat_private> > To: "'John Starta'" <johnat_private>; > <securityjobsat_private> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 8:55 > PM > Subject: RE: How common are NCA's? > > > > Good evening, > > > > As an employer in that particular niche, I also do ask employee > > to sign those NCA clause. The most important thing with NCA is > > the definition of the domain where the consultancy firm evolve > > and in which context you will be providing services to this firm > > so the protected area of business is clear to everybody. > > > > For example, if I train a guy on firewalls, I found it normal > > that for a formal period of one year he wont be able to work for > > one of my > competitor, > > but I wont block him to work for a university as a firewall > > administrator. Another clause will protect me for the cost that > > came from that training. > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBO3GQa+yvu0J+uFErEQLoRQCfRL5fUQSVKYOfzOR5wQeKyvOQc7oAn2zi TC6DoDjA27LPn50zoDWWZqau =Vwpc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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