Intrusion.com has had massive layoffs. I was laid off from there coming up on 3 months ago. I don't know about the others Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations -- entangling alliances with none. --Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) From every mountainside let freedom ring. --Samuel Francis Smith, from the anthem "America", 1831 -----Original Message----- From: Schmehl, Paul L [mailto:paulsat_private] Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:53 PM To: Anton Chuvakin; securityjobsat_private Subject: RE: Any profitable SECURITY-ONLY companies? You don't say what it is you want to do, but I get the impression you want to program, perhaps particularly in the IDS arena. Who have you spoken to? Do you know who the IDS companies are? Have you queried eEye? Intrusion.com? Foundstone? @Stake? (These are just a few.) Paul Schmehl (paulsat_private) Supervisor of Support Services The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ AVIEN Founding Member > -----Original Message----- > From: Anton Chuvakin [mailto:antonat_private] > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:19 PM > To: securityjobsat_private > Subject: Any profitable SECURITY-ONLY companies? > Importance: High > > > Hello all, > > In the course of my current job search, I seem to have > developed a strange conclusion about the infosec companies: > they are either start-ups running on the last drops of > venture capital (well, last drops might be $40 mil received > in Fall 2000, but for the sake of argument - it is still venture > money) or small 1-10 person shops that are profitable because > they stay small. Both offer little in terms of potential > employment: I rule out first group due to my recent > experience and second are not hiring at all. > > Well, there are also behemoths like NAI or Symantec, which > are heavily involved in security, but it is quite impossible > to get in (no matter how many times one reads "What color is > your parachute" book ;-). > > Maybe I am mistaken in restricting my job search to security > companies only, but I do that due to the fact that most fun > jobs seem to be there. Compare designing a new IDS to > ensuring HIPAA compliance of a hospital and you will > understand what I am talking about. > > Am I wrong (hopefully) or what? I just came back from a local > ISSA chapter meeting and we were presented with a > hyper-optimistic speech on how the need for security will > drastically grow in the next 12-24 months, but I am unwilling > to wait that long (need to eat something before that ;-)). > > Best regards, > -- > Anton A. Chuvakin > === You either succeed or learn! === > http://www.chuvakin.org > licq: 29034084 > >
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