Hello, I have been after a security job in the uk for about 7 months now and it seems apparent that they just are not any Junior positions in the uk for security. I have now decided to wait it out and get a windows admin or tech support job instead. I don't think security is going to hit it off here in the uk for at least another few years. Regards, Marc Towers "My wage packet has more deductions then a Sherlock Holmes Novel" --- "Patrick S. Harper" <patrickat_private> wrote: > Intrusion.com has had massive layoffs. I was laid > off from there coming > up on 3 months ago. I don't know about the others > > > > > Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all > nations -- entangling > alliances with none. > --Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) > > From every mountainside let freedom ring. > --Samuel Francis Smith, from the anthem "America", > 1831 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Schmehl, Paul L [mailto:paulsat_private] > Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 2:53 PM > To: Anton Chuvakin; securityjobsat_private > Subject: RE: Any profitable SECURITY-ONLY companies? > > > You don't say what it is you want to do, but I get > the impression you > want to program, perhaps particularly in the IDS > arena. Who have you > spoken to? Do you know who the IDS companies are? > Have you queried > eEye? Intrusion.com? Foundstone? @Stake? (These > are just a few.) > > Paul Schmehl (paulsat_private) > Supervisor of Support Services > The University of Texas at Dallas > http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ AVIEN > Founding Member > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Anton Chuvakin [mailto:antonat_private] > > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 5:19 PM > > To: securityjobsat_private > > Subject: Any profitable SECURITY-ONLY companies? > > Importance: High > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > In the course of my current job search, I seem to > have > > developed a strange conclusion about the infosec > companies: > > they are either start-ups running on the last > drops of > > venture capital (well, last drops might be $40 mil > received > > in Fall 2000, but for the sake of argument - it is > still venture > > money) or small 1-10 person shops that are > profitable because > > they stay small. Both offer little in terms of > potential > > employment: I rule out first group due to my > recent > > experience and second are not hiring at all. > > > > Well, there are also behemoths like NAI or > Symantec, which > > are heavily involved in security, but it is quite > impossible > > to get in (no matter how many times one reads > "What color is > > your parachute" book ;-). > > > > Maybe I am mistaken in restricting my job search > to security > > companies only, but I do that due to the fact that > most fun > > jobs seem to be there. Compare designing a new IDS > to > > ensuring HIPAA compliance of a hospital and you > will > > understand what I am talking about. > > > > Am I wrong (hopefully) or what? I just came back > from a local > > ISSA chapter meeting and we were presented with a > > hyper-optimistic speech on how the need for > security will > > drastically grow in the next 12-24 months, but I > am unwilling > > to wait that long (need to eat something before > that ;-)). > > > > Best regards, > > -- > > Anton A. Chuvakin > > === You either succeed or learn! === > > http://www.chuvakin.org > > licq: 29034084 > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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