RE: Article: 10 Hottest Certifications for 2002

From: Barry Kokotailo (barry.kokotailoat_private)
Date: Wed Jan 02 2002 - 12:32:09 PST

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    Sure.
    
    For a GIAC rating I would have to:
    
    1) Pay $3k USD to take one of the tracks.
    2) Pay $150 USD to attempt GIAC rating for that track.
    3) I would have to write a white paper that I do not own copyright own. SANS
    does.
       So SANS can has exclusive rights over my material. Nice way to make sure
    your web site is visited.
    4) Then I would have to write two exams for the track.
    5) Every year go back to 1).
    
    There are eight tracks. And I am a practitioner.
    
    Barry W. Kokotailo RET/CSA/CSNA/CISSP
    Information Technology Security Specialist
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: robin [mailto:rnicholsonat_private]
    Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 12:31 PM
    To: securityjobsat_private; rferrellat_private
    Subject: Re: Article: 10 Hottest Certifications for 2002
    
    
    Clarification:
    SANS is not anti-CISSP. The 2 certs address different audiences.
    GIAC certs are geared toward practitioners and CISSP is geared toward
    management types.
    SANS, in fact, offers considerable discounts to CISSP certified people
    seeking GIAC certifications.
    
    
    
    
    
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: <rferrellat_private>
    To: <securityjobsat_private>
    Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 2:55 AM
    Subject: Re: Article: 10 Hottest Certifications for 2002
    
    
    > > Finally, the certification was originally designed
    > > for and by federal gov't types...govvies.  Many of
    > > the questions when I took the exam in '99 were
    > > heavily weighted toward the Rainbow Series,
    > > particularly the Orange and Red books.  The CPEs
    > > are heavily weighted toward govvies, as well...I
    > > don't know many commercial consulting firms that
    > > can have their employees running off to
    > > conferences and doing other things that they can't
    > > bill to, all to get these CPE points.
    >
    > Oh, I don't know...I'm a 'govvie' and I'm just a couple
    > of hours short of recertification for CISSP without
    > attending a single conference.
    >
    > I will admit, though, that all certifications in the InfoSec
    > field that I've investigated (not just CISSP) are pretty
    > darned self-serving.  They tend to be highly competitive
    > with one another, and to me that just hurts us in the
    > overall picture.  Certs should ideally be complementary or
    > reinforcing, not mutually exclusive.  I'd be a lot more
    > inclined to pursue GIAC (I'm a big fan of SANS) if they
    > weren't so frankly anti-CISSP.  I'm sure GIAC folks find the
    > reverse to be true.  Instead of competing against one another,
    > it would be nice to see some cooperation and a concerted attempt
    > for each to fill in the gaps left by the other.
    >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > RGF
    >
    > Robert G. Ferrell, CISSP
    > http://rferrell.home.texas.net/rgflit.html
    > rferrellat_private
    >
    



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