Speaking *strictly* on my own and not in any way representing my current employer... This thread was discussed already on this list, so I offer a quick response. I too have come across many recruiters who did not attend to me in the way I expected. Knowing that I am very marketable allowed me to select the right recruiter by understanding exactly what it is I wanted from them. Oddly enough, you mentioned Alta Associates, even if it was only as an example. I have had nothing but outstanding dealings with them in the past, and I also know the recruiters there personally. They are well-connected in the industry and have always demonstrated the highest professionalism. In fact, their system for handling their candidates is such that the candidate can be assisted by any of their recruiters -- their database is set up to allow anyone in their firm to call up the candidate's profile and quickly understand at what stage of the recruiting process that candidate is in, and take appropriate action. My advice is this: if you are marketable and know exactly what it is you want from the recruiter, then find one that will meet your needs. Have your questions for the recruiter ready, then call them and interview them by phone. Once you've found one that satisfies you, hire them. Remember, you're not "stuck" with anyone. You don't work for them - they work for you. Florindo _________________________________________________________ Florindo Gallicchio * Director, Security Assessment & Compliance * Radianz * 492 River Rd. * Nutley, NJ 07110 USA * +1 973 662 3158 * florindo.gallicchioat_private |--------+-----------------------> | | "leon" | | | <leonat_private| | | m> | | | | | | 03/10/2002 | | | 01:33 PM | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: <securityjobsat_private> | | cc: | | Subject: what to do if you get stuck with a terrible recruiter | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi everyone, I am just beginning to look for a job but I remember from past experience some of the pitfalls and politics that happen when dealing with recruiters. I know there are alot of very knowledgable people on this list so I would like to solicit some advice from the group. What do you do if your recruiter is terrible? It has been my past experience that if you call say alta (nothing against alta just the first name that came to mind) and you talk to a recruiter you are kind of linked with that recruiter. If you feel the recruiter is doing a terrible job and not helping you, you are kind of stuck with them. Alice from Alta will say I can't help you cause you are working with Bob. "Yeah but Bob is not really helping me. I sent him my resume and I have left 3 voice messages and not only has he not gotten me any leads but he wont return my phone calls." Alice will say "again I am sorry but you are Bob's client." What do you do in this situation? How do you break out of it? Does this mean I am stuck with Bob forever??? I have met a lot of recruiters who for reason or another have proven to be shady (calling references without permission, applying me for jobs I did not ask them to, etc). Can someone help me and tell me what to do? I already contacted someone from a prominent info-sec recruiting company and she was like I will call you back in 20 minutes. Sure enough over 8 hours (not including the weekend) I have not heard from her. Now I feel if I call this company back and try to work with a more talented recruiter or someone who cares more I will run into the alice and bob situation. Can anyone help me or at least give me some guidance? Thank you, Leon (Oh and yes I am looking for a job so those interested please contact me via e-mail.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPIum79qAgf0xoaEuEQLI1QCfa9vjZzFF8u8VGe/b6NSe489E7FEAoLIh UKVjKWnosE1F/JdGf4MICKri =NrY/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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