<snip to make this shorter> Well, as a sysadmin and grey-hat hacker (not cracker) I'd like to say this... If anyone does abide by this, please do install some sort of alert system like ARIS to collect our knowledge about these news attempts and stuff. It is my understanding that John doesn't want the companies to report the individuals to the ISPs and governmental agencies. This is a good idea, however it still needs to be reported because new stuff comes up all the time. What if this was sooner and CodeRed came out and no one decided to report anything? My point is this: knowing that the FBI is first of all is swamped with other physical claims of attacks, why should we be bothering them with Internet stuff when we are capable of doing it ourselves? The lists of users on bugtraq and others are huge, there is much more expertise here than the government will ever set a finger on. I'm all for what John is saying, however the reports of break ins should not be reported to the g'ovt, but to the lists- and the people in the lists should be more communicative to assist the afflicted company so that new attacks could be fended off like mace to a pack of wild badgers. please forgive any grammatical and spelling errors, this message was written in haste (lunch time:P). ================================== Russell Handorf oooo, shiney ::Wanders after it:: www.russells-world.com www.inside-aol.com www.terrorists.net www.bad-mother-fucker.org www.philly2600.net "Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pacman affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching pills and listening to repetitive music." ~unknown ==================================
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