-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Unless you count the battered and brruised body of the otherwise unknowing Sysadmin that gets eaten alive by his boss and his boss and his boss and his boss and his boss and his boss and a VP and the CEO and the CFO and the CIO and the ... Eh - -----Original Message----- From: TD - Sales International Holland B.V. [mailto:tdat_private] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 8:27 AM To: Joe Shaw; Hire, Ejay Cc: 'br0ken halo'; vuln-devat_private Subject: Re: Civil Disobedience I think this person ment victimless in the sense of body count (thus no dead/injured/otherwise fysical damaged people/animals) regards On Tuesday 16 October 2001 03:31, Joe Shaw stuffed this into my mailbox: > On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Hire, Ejay wrote: > > Don't you think "hacking is a victimless crime" is a bit soft? I > > agree it doesn't merit life inprisonment, but it still has an > > impact on its' victims. > > Crackin is never a victimless crime. Someone owns the compromised > systems. I've personally spent more time restoring/securing > systems after a compromise because people didn't implement adequate > security measures than I'd ever want to. > > Yours in freedom and liberty, > -- > Joseph W. Shaw II > Network Security Specialist/CCNA > Unemployed. Will hack for food. God Bless. > Apparently I'm overqualified but undereducated to be employed. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBO8xI4wfGUZh0Fm3JEQJcVgCg7IOv4Grhwqyr8pj6QR5jHfp8nIwAoLtY OSlZIiLYloNoxweZ2LmI2ScY =OfBS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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