Re: [ALERT] Remote File Execution By Web or Mail: Internet Explorer

From: Glenn Valenta (glennat_private)
Date: Fri Nov 23 2001 - 16:21:21 PST

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    Bill Weiss wrote:
    > 
    > Mariusz Mazur(mariuszat_private)@Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 08:09:46PM +0100:
    
    > >
    > > Is this just me or maybe more people think that releasing this
    > > "advisory" (though this should be called "intimidator") was completely
    > > irresponsible and plain stupid?
    > >
    > >
    > 
    > I think the point was to show us that the MS policy is stupid.  There's a
    > hole, obviously it can be found, but MS doesn't want us to know about
    > it.
    
    With all the new MS OSs and now the non-disclosure of vulnerabilities, it
    seems to be a big drain on resources to cover all the potential
    vulnerabilities with external kluges. When I compare the amount of support
    time wasted on the security of MS products compared to the Macintosh, Linux
    and SGI workstation, it makes me consider dumping windows all together.
    
    I'm not the only person paying the MS penalty either. Since I either block or
    defang all potentially executable attachments at our mailserver, all the users
    have to waste time un-defanging attachments. Allot of web pages don't work
    right because I block most ports on our firewall. We also have the
    workstations preference files set up to prohibit activeX and java scripts from
    running making some websites useless. 
    
    The main facet of the problem is that there is no way to fully disable IE and
    outlook from any MS product.  These seem to have been the foundation for most
    all of the trojans and viruses the last few years. Just disabling these
    products would have kept us safe from viruses for the last two years. I'm not
    sure how I'm going to handle this passport crap yet except to ban XP from our
    company.
    
    MS has just increased the amount of time (through non-disclosure) we expend to
    cover our asses. It's time for use to consider how much time we waste covering
    our backside instead of moving forward. 
    
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