Re: [NGSEC] Whitepaper Released: Polymorphic shellcodes vs. ApplicationIDSs

From: Robert Flicker (robert_flickerat_private)
Date: Sat Jan 26 2002 - 01:55:37 PST

  • Next message: Charles 'core' Stevenson: "Re: [NGSEC] Whitepaper Released: Polymorphic shellcodes vs. ApplicationIDSs"

    Hi charles:
    
    Have you tested the sourcecode that comes with the paper:
    
    http://www.ngsec.com/downloads/misc/NIDSfindshellcode.tgz
    
    As far as i know is the first public code that does this stuff.
    It may be not hot-news but i think it worth the download, and is a better 
    solution for current IDS than your exoteric thoughts with Neuronal Networks 
    and distributed signature checking... INMHO uimplementable in current IDS 
    technologies.
    
    Quoting from www.snort.org:
    
    "Paper: Polymorphicisms be gone
    ...
    His ideas revolve around counting multiple NOP type operations in a row and 
    alerting when a threshold is reached. The idea has been kicked around for a 
    while, but this is the first one that I have seen in actual implementation.
    ...
    "
    
    Current snort branch and its technique to detect shellcode is very easy 
    foolable ;P... NIDSfindshellcode is also foolable but in a harder way.
    
    
    Robert Flicker
    
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