Likewise Tony. I've heard quite a bit of crosstalk on our 'Safety 1st Baby monitor' during most weekend nights. This is probably attributed to the fact that the monitor is a mere 900 MHz transceiver like most older and newer cordless phones. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Tony Camp [mailto:Tony_Campat_private] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:05 PM To: Vuln-Dev Subject: RE: Phone Switches + telephone banking etc That sounds well and good, except for my first-hand experience in hearing someone's bank details coming across a baby monitor. -----Original Message----- From: Kayne Ian (Softlab) [mailto:Ian.Kayneat_private] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 4:04 AM To: Vuln-Dev Subject: RE: Phone Switches + telephone banking etc -> > I know many banks ( at least in the UK) will say not to use their > service through cordless phones, maybe they should increase to include Why's that? I've never heard of a bank making that statement. A cordless phone is pretty much a minor risk anyway, if someone wanted to go to the trouble of listening in to your call to the bank, they'd be better off splicing the phone line outside your house. IIRC DECT fones are scrambled in some way, so you can't just tune in with a reciever. Non-DECT fones have enough trouble finding the base station and making a clear call through even paper thin walls, so someone sitting outside your house is unlikely to get anything through a few layers of concrete... £0.02 Ian Kayne Technical Specialist - IT Solutions Softlab Ltd - A BMW Company > -----Original Message----- > From: quentynat_private [mailto:quentynat_private] > Sent: 06 June 2002 16:54 > To: vuln > Subject: Phone Switches + telephone banking etc > > > I was thinking today about phone switches, many of them are > connected to > the internal LAN. Many of them record all the keystrokes made by the > individual phones (this is the important bit). If one could > compromise a > phone switch (or where ever it stores it's logs) then making > free calls > would be a minor issue. The prize in this situation could be > who phoned > what bank and if you can get the key presses then if that person has > used the automated telephone banking service, you will have ( at a > minimum): > > the account number > sort code > any verification number > > > has any one done any work in this area ? > > I know many banks ( at least in the UK) will say not to use their > service through cordless phones, maybe they should increase to include > corporate phone switches. > > > > Q > > -- > ##################### > Quentyn Taylor > Sysadmin - Fotango > ##################### > RFC 882 put the dot in .com. > ******************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use of the information contained within this email or attachments is strictly prohibited. Internet communications are not secure and Softlab does not accept any legal responsibility for the content of this message. Any opinions expressed in the email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of the Company. If you have received this email in error, or if you are concerned with the content of this email please notify the IT helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0)121 788 5480. ********************************************************************
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