Re: [Full-Disclosure] AV "feature" does more DDoS than Sobig

From: 3APA3A (3APA3Aat_private)
Date: Thu Aug 28 2003 - 07:12:10 PDT

  • Next message: Vladimir Parkhaev: "Re: [Full-Disclosure] AV "feature" does more DDoS than Sobig"

    Dear Fabio Gomes de Souza,
    
    Few  Russian  security  and  Internet professionals who's mailboxes were
    flooded  by  AV  reports  signed an open letter to antiviral developers,
    administrators and users called "AntiViruses to ruin Internet?". It ends
    up  with  words  "If  we  want  to  live  here we must shut up all these
    robots".
    
    http://www.bugtraq.ru/library/security/antiantivirus.html  (sorry,  it's
    in Russian).
    
    It  was  published  on  few  well-known  sites.  At  least few huge mail
    services now do not generate AV reports to sender. May be it's a time to
    make same PR action worldwide.
    
    --Thursday, August 28, 2003, 5:05:20 PM, you wrote to bugtraqat_private:
    
    FGdS> Hello,
    
    FGdS> Anti-virus products are causing more harm than the Sobig Worm.
    
    FGdS> Some of my customers are having the following problem:
    
    FGdS> B = Customer of my customer (infected)
    FGdS> C,D,E = Some random company (victims of Sobig)
    FGdS> A = My customer (victim of AV marketing)
    
    FGdS> The Sobig worm infected B.
    
    FGdS> In its propagation loop, the worm composes a message, chooses two random 
    FGdS> items in the Address Book, and puts the first in the "From:" and the 
    FGdS> second in the "To:" header. Then all virus messages are spoofed.
    
    FGdS> The problem is that many e-mail virus scanners send a "You are infected" 
    FGdS> reply to the address contained in the "From" header. Since the messages 
    FGdS> are spoofed, the inoccent, uninfected user "A" is flooded by automatic 
    FGdS> complaints from "C","D","E" regarding the virus that "B" sends.
    
    FGdS> Anti-virus companies seem to spend more money on marketing/visibility 
    FGdS> than on actually protecting their customers. This marketing stupidity is 
    FGdS> done by adding USELESS features, which spreads false information and 
    FGdS> delivers false sense of security:
    
    FGdS>         - "You're infected" reply (false positive)
    FGdS>         - "This message is 100% virus-free certified" signature line (false 
    FGdS> sense of security)
    FGdS>         - Anti-virus buttons on Internet Explorer toolbar (just to launch the AV)
    FGdS>         - Splash screens every time you:
    FGdS>                 - boot your computer
    FGdS>                 - send e-mail
    FGdS>                 - check pop3 e-mail
    FGdS>                 - turn your computer off
    FGdS>         - System tray useless icons (in some AVs, the system tray icon does 
    FGdS> nothing except for launching the AV program)
    FGdS>         - Redundant shortcut icons in Desktop, Start Menu root, Quick Launch 
    FGdS> and Start Menu program folder
    
    FGdS> This kind of stupidity from AV companies makes me hate them more every day.
    
    
    
    -- 
    ~/ZARAZA
    Впрочем, важнее всего - алгоритм!  (Лем)
    
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