It is very apparent from the recent postings, that there is a lot of frustration going on here. There are a lot of smart people in this group, perhaps everyone's energies could be put to better use, by thinking of ways to better the situations at hand, i.e., ideas for stopping DoS attacks "before" they reach the intended target,(is this possible? I am just learning) and coming up with useful comments about airport and other security that may actually be used, rather than cutting down the system in use at present. Yes, they may be taking away nail clippers, but you do have other more effective ways to defend yourself and help others on the airplane if you are in a threatened situation. Certainly with the smart people in our group, there must be some good ideas out there for helping to improve things. A side note; we have over 35 million laws trying to enforce 10 commandments. Heidi -----Original Message----- From: owner-crime@/var/spool/majordomo/lists/crime [mailto:owner-crime@/var/spool/majordomo/lists/crime]On Behalf Of Crispin Cowan Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 9:14 AM To: Ken Emmons Cc: 'alan@private'; Toby Kohlenberg; Kuo, Jimmy; 'Chris & Kathleen '; 'crime@private ' Subject: Re: NIPC Daily Report, 30 October 2001 Ken Emmons wrote: >Let's stop being ridicules and interrupting everyone's day with this type of >non-important junk email. I joined this group and receive some very >interesting mail, just wish we could cut out the SPAM junk. > Hey, get it right: this is an off-topic flame war, not spam :-) Less flippantly, said flamewar does have some marginal relevance to CRIME's putative mission. But in the absence of an official charter, it's pretty difficult to call any discussion that has the word "security" in it off-topic. Crispin -- Crispin Cowan, Ph.D. Chief Scientist, WireX Communications, Inc. http://wirex.com Security Hardened Linux Distribution: http://immunix.org Available for purchase: http://wirex.com/Products/Immunix/purchase.html
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