Re: Recent Attacks

From: Paul D. Robertson (probertsat_private)
Date: Wed Feb 23 2000 - 03:19:19 PST

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    On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 arkat_private wrote:
    
    > > > Viruses are a problem which can be `managed'.  They're `damage' is also
    > > 
    > > Only after the fact.
    > 
    > *BEFORE*. Just don't run (well, you can call it "open", if you are
    > lose-dose user) shit from the net and you are safe.
    > Don't use .doc and .xls for external communications. Use rtf and 
    > comma-separated format instead. It is a good idea anyways, just because
    > not everybody outside runs weendoze. 
    
    In most companies, that's not an option.  An amazing number of vendors
    send .xls spreadsheets and .doc files these days.  Personally, I haven't
    acquired any viruses unintentionally in the last 10 years, and only one in
    the period prior to that (and it wasn't Internet-related, it was
    internally spread from a business partner in a software development shop 
    in a company that didn't have any scanners or even a security policy.)
    
    Fortunately, I'm now at the point where I can choose my computing
    environment, *most* people are at the behest of company standards.
    
    > It's a good idea to eliminate that nasty thingies inside the company too.
    > Switching to less dangerous formats and more reasonable groupware and
    > document handling system will help you not only with security.
    
    If you know people in ~30 person non-technology companies who can even
    enumerate "less dangerous formats", let alone get their *customers* to
    switch, you know a lot more bright people than I at that level.
    
    > If you are, after all, forced to get those things from outside, set up
    > a quarantine system and perform checks (or even format conversion) on it.
    > Use server-based virus scanners on your LAN.
    
    Again, virus scanners are an after-the-fact mechanism.  Especially
    because someone has to get the virus prior to someone generating a
    signature.
    
    > I see the PC viruses from they day they were invented. And my opinion 
    > did not change for more that 10 years: only natural born idiot can get
    
    You underestimate the total number of natural born idiots in the world
    obviously ;)
    
    > damaged by a virus. If you run files you recieve by email, you are one
    > of those. If your users are, you should punish them for that, throw them
    > out or shoot them, just like you will do with someone who damages your
    > hardware on regular basis.
    
    If we could shoot lusers, we probably wouldn't have jobs since there'd be
    nobody to protect anymore.
    
    Paul
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