Re: Hooks, authority, MAC, the future and proposol

From: richard offer (offerat_private)
Date: Mon Jul 09 2001 - 16:33:22 PDT

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    * On Sun, Jul 08, 2001 at 04:29:07PM -0700, LA Walsh wrote:
    *> 
    *> Given that audit requires more hooks than are currently
    *> present and making audit a stage II goal, when will that be
    *> addressed?  What is the time frame for allowing audit hooks into
    *> LSM?
    * 
    * What is needed for "audit"?  The ability to log every syscall entry and
    * exit with a timestamp, userid, parameters and return value?  Or do you
    * mean something else?  
    
    Basically, to log every security relevent event (normally, but not limited
    too, an access control decision). If a system call performs two distinctly
    different checks but returns the same errno, then system call interposition
    isn't going to work.
    
    An example would be open(). EACCESS is returned for both DAC and MAC
    (IS_IMMUTABLE) checks. We need to be able to distinguish between them to
    fulfill the needs of a complient audit system.
    
    In general, we don't need to record the parsing of parameters, which means
    that ideally the audit entry point should be after the user-space object
    has been converted into kernel space. Doing this twice by forcing the use
    of interposition is going to make the general perception of audit being a
    system hog self-fullfilling.
    
    * Do you have a pointer to the actual requirement?
    
    CAPP Requirements (Section 5.1)
    
    http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/library/protection_profiles/CAPP-1.d.pdf
    
    
    LSPP Requirements (Section 5.1)
    
    http://www.radium.ncsc.mil/tpep/library/protection_profiles/LSPP-1.b.pdf
    
    Posix 1e
    
    http://www.tlinx.org/security/
    
    * thanks,
    * 
    * greg k-h
    * 
    
    richard.
    
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