Re: The Demise of Simple Assurance?

From: Crispin Cowan (crispinat_private)
Date: Tue Jul 31 2001 - 20:25:12 PDT

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    Valdis.Kletnieksat_private wrote:
    
    > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001 19:12:20 PDT, Crispin Cowan said:
    > > [moving kernel's DAC logic to a module is hopeless]
    >
    > Is it something that we should at least get onto people's radar as a possible
    > thing for a 2.7 kernel project?  I suspect much of it is intertwined due to
    > "just grew" software dynamics.
    
    I agree that it "just grew."  That's what makes it hard to reverse.
    
    
    > 1) Would it be worth the effort for *somebody* to unsnarl/streamline it?
    
    I don't think so, but I can't stop people from trying.  I believe that such an
    effort is doomed:
    
       * It will be a huge amount of work.
       * It won't work: it will induce waay too many bugs to manage.
       * It will never be accepted: even if you can get it debugged, Linus et al won't
         believe it to be stable enough.
    
    > 2) Should the "somebody" be "us" as part of a 'stage 2' effort?
    
    Here I'm more vehement:  No, I'd really rather that didn't happen.  If we put this
    into the stage 2 plans (or even propse a "stage 3") and the main kernel people hear
    about it, they're likely to be so horrified that stage 1 may get stonewalled.
    
    Crispin
    
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