Understood, and while some companies do focus opne certificastions, many still find that it only means the person is skilled at testing. Also, finding a certificastion program that is not a larege waste of time and monies and is actually seen by employers as top notch will be a factor. Again, is they are still youthful as mentioned previously, I'd go the college route. Thanks, Ron DuFresne Simon Hogg wrote: > Charles and other list members, greetings. > > I was at the Info Security show/expo at Olympia (London) yesterday, and came > across a stand from the ISC2 organisation (see : www.isc2.org ) > > I think some sort of 'certification' which is not vendor specific maybe of greater use, > than a degree and/or vendor training. This may not solve the 'jack of all trades' > situation > though, which I can sympathise with. > > I think the bottom line is 'can you get the job done', so if you can that's all that > matters. > Of course, a lot of letters after your name, may help, but they can be obtained and the > more you have, > the more can impress clients! > > Simon > > Charles England wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I have been trying to change my career focus from Jack of all Trades > > in a high paced service environment to network security. Despite > > banging on many doors I have up to this point come up empty. I was > > wondering if anyone had any advice they could give me. I also had two > > specific questions. I do not have a college degree should obtaining a > > degree be a high priority, ie am I wasting my time without a degree. > > Which certifications if any are worth pursuing, I once thought > > certain certifications would help advance my career however having a > > CCNP has done nothing except help my current employer achieve a > > higher standing as a Cisco dealer. > > > > Charles England > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> > > > > iQA/AwUBOueEi3SOBwex5LBDEQJlLQCfaxQmJ9pwDKSdpfbsr3txCoF/vrwAn0V3 > > ElrhFbXyYbYs7tYCGCaOmFuZ > > =FNbc > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -- > Simon Hogg, Learning Resources, Oxford Brookes University, > Headington, Oxford, OX3 0BP, UK. > > Postmaster & Academic Computing Officer. > > Email: simon.hoggat_private > Tel. : (+44) 01865 483314 > Fax. : (+44) 01865 483073 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ admin & senior consultant: darkstar.sysinfo.com http://darkstar.sysinfo.com "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart testing, only testing, and damn good at it too! ~~ The good thing about potential is, as long as you do nothing, you'll always have it.
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