Perhaps we need to actually look at this hypothesis in more depth. It implies that the whole IT industry in general is dying off, setting back, that the industry is overloaded with those with the skills requierd to the point of saturation. It implies that those now in college coursework of the comp science realm are perhaps going to face difficult times in the short time after they ghraduate. It implies that the not too distant efforts to gain increases in emigrant visas to fill these highly skilled positions was for naught and too drastic a mesure in the short term to fit the needs it was enacted to accomplish, to meet the need for employees with skills to fill positions of a technical nature. As a sidelight, as hinted in my first response to this posting, it means that side industries are going to long suffer also, it would hint to the ned or at least a drastic decrease in headhunters war dialing IT departments accross the US and most likely other coutries to steal away dedicated employees of those corporations that possessed them. And, if the worst comes to fashoin as to what is hinted at here, it implies that even those with a decent paycheck to match the time spent in gaining those skills to preform the tasks of this industry, are going to face sharp cut-backs in their future paychecks and end of year salary increases. This proposed hypothosis implies an industry so bloated as to make the code for the windows OS's seem trivial. I think though perhaps we are seeing the beginnings of panic set in, and hope that folks do not by into this panic. Granted, the industry is most likely changing, and even if the idiocy that has come to be known as the dot.com era is finally coming to a close, I od not think it forbodes the drastic decreases in wages and offerings implied by the headhunter we are again responding to here. Thanks, Ron DuFresne tadiat_private wrote: > the market will not pick up, the dot com era is history. I have trouble > explaining this concept to security people world wide when they ask for jobs > and hit me with a dotcom millionaire's salary and package requirements. the > supply of candidates floating around unemployed and available has > multiplied. everyone is taking less money because of the demand for jobs and > the quantity of candidates available gives employers much more variety to > pick from in what was once a "skill short market" welcome back to reality. > > -a head-hunter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Gentry [mailto:listuserat_private] > Sent: 25 June 2001 01:41 > To: Mark Villanova > Cc: Kenat_private; securityjobsat_private > Subject: RE: Random Thoughts from the "Peanut Gallery" > > > out there. And this market slump cannot last forever. When the market > > improves, companies will have to pay us what we are worth or lose us to > > One could make the argument that most of us were being overpaid in the > recent upswing, and that things like this are merely bringing wages back > in line with reality. > > -- > Jeff Gentry jesterat_private gentrjat_private > SEX DRUGS UNIX -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ admin & senior consultant: darkstar.sysinfo.com http://darkstar.sysinfo.com "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart testing, only testing, and damn good at it too! ~~ The good thing about potential is, as long as you do nothing, you'll always have it.
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