Re: "Peanut Gallery"

From: ron (ronat_private)
Date: Thu Jun 28 2001 - 18:11:17 PDT

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    Perhaps we need to actually look at this hypothesis in more depth.  It implies
    that  the whole IT industry in general is dying off, setting back, that the
    industry is overloaded with those with the skills requierd to the point of
    saturation.  It implies that those now in college coursework of the comp science
    realm are perhaps going to face difficult times in the short time after they
    ghraduate.  It implies that the not too distant efforts to gain increases in
    emigrant visas to fill these highly skilled positions was for naught and too
    drastic a mesure in the short term to fit the needs it was enacted to
    accomplish, to meet the need for employees with skills to fill positions of a
    technical nature.  As a sidelight, as hinted in my first response to this
    posting, it means that side industries are going to long suffer also, it would
    hint to the ned or at least a drastic decrease in headhunters war dialing IT
    departments accross the US and most likely other coutries to steal away
    dedicated employees of those corporations that possessed them.  And, if the
    worst comes to fashoin as to what is hinted at here, it implies that even those
    with a decent paycheck to match the time spent in gaining those skills to
    preform the tasks of this industry, are going to face sharp cut-backs in their
    future paychecks and end of year salary increases.  This proposed hypothosis
    implies an industry so bloated as to make the code for the windows OS's seem
    trivial.  I think though perhaps we are seeing the beginnings of panic set in,
    and hope that folks do not by into this panic.  Granted, the industry is most
    likely changing, and even if the idiocy that has come to be known as the dot.com
    era is finally coming to a close, I od not think it forbodes the drastic
    decreases in wages and offerings implied by the headhunter we are again
    responding to here.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ron DuFresne
    
    tadiat_private wrote:
    
    > the market will not pick up, the dot com era is history. I have trouble
    > explaining this concept to security people world wide when they ask for jobs
    > and hit me with a dotcom millionaire's salary and package requirements. the
    > supply of candidates floating around unemployed and available has
    > multiplied. everyone is taking less money because of the demand for jobs and
    > the quantity of candidates available gives employers much more variety to
    > pick from in what was once a "skill short market"  welcome back to reality.
    >
    > -a head-hunter
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Jeff Gentry [mailto:listuserat_private]
    > Sent: 25 June 2001 01:41
    > To: Mark Villanova
    > Cc: Kenat_private; securityjobsat_private
    > Subject: RE: Random Thoughts from the "Peanut Gallery"
    >
    > > out there.  And this market slump cannot last forever.  When the market
    > > improves, companies will have to pay us what we are worth or lose us to
    >
    > One could make the argument that most of us were being overpaid in the
    > recent upswing, and that things like this are merely bringing wages back
    > in line with reality.
    >
    > --
    >     Jeff Gentry  jesterat_private  gentrjat_private
    >            SEX           DRUGS           UNIX
    
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