Large companies and government departments are usually stuck with rigid processes about how they employ people. Contacting the company direct can be construed as biasing the employment process, and this day and age when just about every man and his dog can go legal on every slight - these large companies have every right to be cautious. Given your situation, I would approach it like this; It sounds like your recruiter has decided you're not in the rat-race. That's not always his decision to make, although they are employed to make selection easier for their client. Maybe you pee'd him off one day, or maybe he had a bad hair day. Maybe too many ppl applied and he had to draw a line in the sand. Call the company. Tell them you'd like to come in for a formal or informal interview to show them how well you would be suited for the job, and how well you'd fit into the team. If they say NO in any of their many forms, close the chapter on this opportunity and move onto the next one. You've got nothing to lose but some frustration at the (possibly) rude dude at the Recruitment agency. Nigel H -----Original Message----- From: Conor [mailto:ccrowleyat_private] Sent: Wednesday, 11 July 2001 3:50 AM To: Nokiagal13at_private; securityjobsat_private Subject: Re: advice please I disagree. After three weeks... forget him. Call direct. Unfortunately for you, this probably means they're not going to bite. This is way too common a practice (has happened to me a lot). As soon as they realize they're not going to make a buck off you, they won't even take your call. And they talk about professionalism... ..Conor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spencer, Ed M. -ND" <Ed.M.Spencer.-NDat_private> To: <Nokiagal13at_private>; <securityjobsat_private> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:09 PM Subject: RE: advice please > 1. Don't call the company direct - it can appear unprofessional. > 2. If the recruiter isn't staying in touch, find another recruiter and/or > recruiting company. > 3. If you just HAVE to use that recruiter - call the manager at the > recruiting company. Maybe they don't work there anymore or are out sick > (giving them the benefit of the doubt). > > If none of the above work you can try to find out what other staffing > companies fill positions at that company and try to work with one of them. > I would recommend heavily against calling the company direct. Chances are > you signed a non-compete/non-disclosure agreement preventing you from > applying with the company direct. Calling the company direct could be > viewed as a violation of that agreement so tread carefully. > > I'm not one to wait too long for the recruiter to place me. Think of it > this way - you don't have a job and they do. As long as they meet thier > quota your getting placed isn't going to keep them up at night. However, > your not working could mean another week of beans and weenies, or top ramen. > > Remember that there are plenty of staffing companies out there, when you > find a good one stick with them, when you find a bad one warn others. :-) > > Good luck! > Ed Spencer > MCSE/MCT/CNA/A+/Network+ > Security Analyst - IS Security > Renaissance Worldwide, Inc. - Walt Disney World > > This communication is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) > above and may contain trade secrets or other information that is exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication by anyone other than the named recipient(s) is > strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, > please immediately notify us by calling (407) 566-5195. The ideas, > opinions, and information expressed within the above email are the express > sole opinion of the author and are not the opinion of the Walt Disney World > Corporation. Thank you. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nokiagal13at_private [mailto:Nokiagal13at_private] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 3:44 AM > To: securityjobsat_private > Subject: advice please > > > Hi > > I am currently looking for a job and I was working with a Recruiter, for > some reason or another ( I have no idea why) this guy just fell off the face > of the earth. He doesn't return my calls or e-mails when I try to follow up > with him on stuff. Anyway, one of the jobs he put me up for I really want > and I know I am qualified to do, but I can't get a hold of him to find out > the feedback on it, can I call the company direct? It has been 3 weeks > since I spoke to him last, he kept asking for all of these things > (references, letters of rec, etc..), then he disappeared. Any advice on how > to handle this? > > Thanks >
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