David,
Just so that people don't get confused, I think you are quoting what a
Security Consulting Firms charge customers, right?
The numbers I was quoting, and discussing were Consultant's "bill rates",
mainly through Agencies. For example
I was billed out at $250/hr once (that I know of) for an entire network and
systems upgrade (had to be a Project
Manager to plan the whole thing, and to time the critical paths so that
everything would go smoothly, AND had
to have the technical knowledge to do that actual Solaris, Cisco IOS,
Gauntlet, etc. upgrades). BUT I didn't actually
GET the $250/hr, the Agency took their 40% scalp or whatever they took.
I assume from your "group reply" that you, like me, don't mind addressing
the whole group on this topic, and your
Input is gratefully accepted. Just didn't want newbies to be confused about
the two different kind of rates being
Discussed. If we really wanted to be thorough we would also need to break
down 'Bill Rates" to W2 and
1099 (or corp-to-corp). I suppose in some cases the President or CEO of the
firm might actually take the entire
Bill Rate for himself, but that would ignore overhead.
David Hawley
UNIX & NT Network Security, LLC.
drhat_private
www.123netsecurity.com
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From: David.Barnett@ey-as.com [mailto:David.Barnett@ey-as.com]
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 5:37 AM
To: Brad Cox
Cc: Rhino Bomd; securityjobsat_private
Subject: Re: Rate's for contractors & employees
I can talk to rates in Chicago and San Fran.
I see $175 - $250/hr pretty consisitently. As for sal, enrty level here is
75k - 95k, as your experience rises so does the money. 5+ years I see 125k
and up depending on your area of expertise.
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<bcox@virtuals To: "Rhino Bomd"
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Subject: Re: Rate's for
contractors & employees
11/22/2001
11:55 AM
On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, at 07:21 PM, Rhino Bomd wrote:
> But a lot have had to take 20% or more cuts. The standard range seems to
> be
> pretty consistent at $60-$95, sometimes up to $125/hr,
To put it into context, my plumber charges $80/hour ;(
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