Re: Rate's for contractors & employees

From: Alex Butcher (security-jobs) (secjobsat_private)
Date: Fri Nov 23 2001 - 14:09:23 PST

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    On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, develmaster wrote:
    
    > > On Wednesday, November 21, 2001, at 07:21 PM, Rhino Bomd wrote:
    > > > But a lot have had to take 20% or more cuts.  The standard range seems to
    > > > be
    > > > pretty consistent at $60-$95, sometimes up to $125/hr,
    > >
    > > To put it into context, my plumber charges $80/hour ;(
    > 
    > Hi, please feel not annoyed by my simple question, but I was looking for my 
    > first job to get the money for university...
    > 
    > I have several years of UNIX/Linux experience, I can code lots of programming 
    > languages (such as C/C++, Perl, ...), I can administrate Servers and I even 
    > think that I am very well informed about security issues & secure 
    > programming. My marks at school were the best of 116 students at my age.
    > 
    > Now I asked a quite big company in the town where i wanted to study, and they 
    > offered me a little less than 10$/hr. Could anybody please tell me if this is 
    > my fault or if the german clocks go the other way round?!
    > 
    > They told me that I need job experience, and it seemed to me as if the time 
    > spend by me developing open source software doesn't matter. Does it really 
    > make such a big difference? Or is anything else wrong with me?
    
    Sadly, that does seem to be the way of the world; most companies discount 
    academic and Free software development (their loss, as far as I'm 
    concerned). Age is also a factor. Getting taken seriously whilst you're 
    under 24 can be tricky.
    
    Having said all that, even US$10 seems on the low side. Shop around - I
    reckon US$20-30 p.h. should be achievable, even without commercial
    experience. Get two or three years under your belt with an organization
    using a wide variety of technologies, preferably with some exposure to
    paying customers and you should be all set.
    
    > Thanky for any answer.
    > cya, develmaster
    
    Best Regards and good luck,
    Alex.
    -- 
    Alex Butcher         Brainbench MVP for Internet Security: www.brainbench.com
    Berkshire, UK      Is *your* company hiring UNIX/Security/Pen. testing folks?
    PGP/GnuPG ID:0x271fd950                      http://www.cocoa.demon.co.uk/cv/
    



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