I hate to beat a dead horse but I had to laugh when I read the article! I am in the San Francisco bay area and while there are some jobs posted on monster and such, no one seems to be hiring. I have replied to several but no response. If I wanted to relocate to DC I could have had a new job two months ago and had received a call on Tuesday for one there as well. I hate to say it but I think there is still a lack of concern in corp America when it comes to information security. There is a stronger focus on firewalls, IDS and viruses but lacking on security awareness, interal controls and disaster recovery. Perhaps if shareholders understood how insecure the networks of the companies they invested in were, we would have more concern. One VP of Information Systems actually stated that "security was an insurance policy he could not afford". I think it safe to say the attitude has not changed much in the last couple of years and even the last couple of months. Charles Zachmeyer, CISSP, MCSE ----- Original Message ----- From: "jw" <jweismannat_private> To: <securityjobsat_private> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: RE: Article: Study Says Security Expertise In Short Supply > No I didn't take the job, the contract company didn't want to pay me the > rate, then they wanted to Mickey mouse moving, then they wanted to change > this, then the guy wanted me there the next day (I live near Tampa) and they > wouldn't let me move for a month and wouldn't pay for my hotel room nor any > other bills as expenses. It was a disaster from the word "Go". I would take > 40k to find a job near Tampa, Orlando, or Sarasota where I would drive > everyday to work for less money and be much happier. Money is nice, but once > you agree on terms you stick by them. If not then you ruin the whole trust > you want to develop between yourself and the business. > > Sigh... > > PS. Anyone have any type of leads on jobs in my area (Tampa-Orlando down all > the way south to ft. Myers)? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: DeBerry, Casey [mailto:CDeBerryat_private] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:56 PM > To: 'jweismannat_private'; securityjobsat_private > Subject: RE: Article: Study Says Security Expertise In Short Supply > > so did you take the job? > > Casey DeBerry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jweismannat_private [mailto:jweismannat_private] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:25 PM > To: securityjobsat_private > Subject: RE: Article: Study Says Security Expertise In Short Supply > > > Florida is no better. I had to go down to Miami for an interview for a small > dot com (I didn't know it was till I got there). They wanted a security > expert/sys admin/ as well as IT manager. They wanted to pay 60k for this, I > told them they were insane and come back with a better offer. Instead of > raising it they lowered it, go figure... > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick S. Harper [mailto:listsat_private] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:36 PM > To: 'Mike Hrubes'; securityjobsat_private > Subject: RE: Article: Study Says Security Expertise In Short Supply > > Houston too. It's pretty bad here for infosec. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Hrubes [mailto:MHrubesat_private] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 3:15 PM > To: securityjobsat_private > Subject: RE: Article: Study Says Security Expertise In Short Supply > > > I'm going to have to agree with the list on this one. Minneapolis area > doesn't seem to have a large amount of security job openings either. > Appears to me that a large percentage of the postings in this area are > DBAs. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay D. Dyson [mailto:jdysonat_private] > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:20 PM > To: Meritt James > Cc: Ed Spencer; securityjobsat_private > Subject: Re: Article: Study Says Security Expertise In Short Supply > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Meritt James wrote: > > > "According to a recent report from online certification company > > Brainbench, disaster-recovery and network-security skills are scarce > > within the IT workforce." > > > > Full article at http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20011121S0015 > > Could have fooled me with the scarcity of such jobs in the Los > Angeles area. (There seems to be a wealth of such opportunities on the > East Coast, but my wife's work is in support of the DoD and thus I'm > effectively tied to the L.A. area.) > > I'm serious. I've been managing with part-time security > advisory work for NASA coupled with independent consulting gigs > (following the massive RIF at OneSecure in July), and I have yet to find > a company that isn't in the throes of downsizing (if not outright > eliminating) any and every computer and network security department they > have. This makes for some pretty thin job opportunities. > > Someone please provide information to the contrary if they think > I'm wrong. :) > > - -Jay > > ( ( _______ > )) )) .-"There's always time for a good cup of coffee"-. > >====<--. > C|~~|C|~~| (>----- Jay D. Dyson -- jdysonat_private -----<) | = > |-' > `--' `--' `---------- Si vis pacem, para bellum. ----------' `------' > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > Comment: See http://www.treachery.net/~jdyson/ for current keys. > > iQCVAwUBPAPLWblDRyqRQ2a9AQF/swP/RHCURyJAX1hBs43SjM+SnPac/t4UuXPl > hVX6YVThCih3bcZi4/NZCT+Wn7uCmNA1kTXyUt4Fj7VYtGwv3yZV9XB0HrfCAYEI > dM7LIhXSoUetJO6FW2narSecXiPxFwDeFGFlrMhGbWWq/Kb6a50+ys1J5+/BOeyK > wgCcj/kcmHY= > =NQGP > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
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