Re: CRIME Wiretapping WiFi [SUMMARY?

From: Duane Nickull (duane@private)
Date: Wed Oct 15 2003 - 17:37:34 PDT

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Brian Varine wrote:
    
     

    
  
    
  
  
  
      
  
    Do you think it has anything to do with the fact that
 terrorist groups are involved in drug trafficking, simple fraud, and money
 laundering?
    
    
  
     
    
 
    
So was the US Government - remember Oliver North and a certain South American
country?  Some people in Washington gave Osama and Saddam money in the last
twenty years.  Are they now deemed terrorists?   I would say no even though
some may disagree.
    

    
To state that one can take apart rights of "suspected" terrorists and eavedrop
without any audit trail is not what I always thought the US was about.  Apparently
several senators and citizens also agree with me.  Protecting individual
rights is a must.    
    

    
Other eavesdropping is also happening not related to terrorism.  The music
industry is now conducting a crackdown on the illegal transfer of electronic
music.  Downloads are being used as evidence.  Supeonas are being introduced
to get records of registers within hubs like Kazaa.
    

    
This was a good thread today - I enjoyed it.  I would like to attempt to
summarize some of it: 
    

    
1. Whether or not someone can snoop/eavedrops/view your communications depends
on what you are transmitting and what the LEO's think you are ( terrorist
| person aiding a terrorist | music distributor | spammer | hacker | other
bad person ).  Note that you do not have to be convicted of one of these,
just suspected for the wiretap to be authorized.
    

    
2. It is your right as an american citizen to use appropriate encryption
technologies to keep your communication private.  
    

    
3. ACLU is not a wing of Al Qaida.  The latter is so evil they violates rules
about "q" being always followed by the letter "u" (my elementry school english
teacher insinuated anyone making such spelling mistakes is capable of other
subversive behaviour)
    

    
4. It is probably in everyone's best interest to keep an eye on the Patriot
Act and keep thinking about how it relates to electronic communication.  This
group can probably provide some valuable input on the subject.  
    

    
5...?
    

    
Anyone else want to add to this.  This is merely IMO.
    

    
Duane Nickull
    

    

    

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