Folks, I was *swamped* with responses. Thanks! So there seems to be enough interest that I will try and summarize, for all rather Than reply to 20 folks. I won't blow anyone's anonymity, as I promised. Some folks are still making the big bucks we used to charge 18 months ago, especially with clients they had worked for in the past. But a lot have had to take 20% or more cuts. The standard range seems to be pretty consistent at $60-$95, sometimes up to $125/hr, those who were getting more than $90 mostly said that the work was sporadic. While I have the floor, I have one more survey question. The deal is the same I won't pass on anyone's name or answers, specifically, but will summarize if the response is great. Here is the question: 1) How much difference does the CISSP make in getting hired? Came up through the ranks, paying my dues at Sun Micro, supporting Sun Federal when Sun was very small startup firm. Was there when the first Internet virus hit (the Internet WORM), supported C2 & B1, have worked with all kinds of firewalls, routers, written policy, PKI, network management, VPN, C2 audits, handled intrusion detection, post mortem, SSL, encryption, etc., etc. just don't want to spend thousands of dollars for some training that is fully redundant to my experience... unless it makes it much easier to get hired. David Hawley UNIX & NT Network Security, LLC. drhat_private www.123netsecurity.com -----Original Message----- From: Rhino Bomd [mailto:rhino007_usat_private] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 8:18 AM To: securityjobsat_private Subject: Rate's for contractors & employees I have been out of touch with the rates question for a while. When I look at the DICE Salary Survey it indicates that the mean rate is Something like $75/hr for all contract work. Of course we in the Security field should be doing better... but the recruiters I talk to Tell me that people are going out for half what they did 18 months ago. I tend to discount what they say, because their job it to Talk us down in price, and their Clients up in price, at all times. So I'm taking my own informal survey. I can promise that anyone Who responds directly to me will remain anonymous. I have no intentions of using this info for more than my own contract search & negotiations. Specifically what are the rates for someone who has had over 20 years of Industry experience, 25 years of security experience, 6 years of computer and network security consulting, and 15 years of UNIX experience. This kind of background used to bring in between $110/hr - $200/hr, depending on length of contract. David Hawley UNIX & NT Network Security, LLC. drhat_private www.123netsecurity.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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